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shimond

Post subject: Some advice

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:38 pm

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Hi to all, this is my first post, i am a long date player and i finally found the time to come back gaming.
I've lot of mins and different armies so i was thinking to plain 4 armies to use with my friend new to epic.
I'd like to hear from you if the following armies are balanced between each others.
General rules: 3000pts, little aircraft, medium war engines.

Ultramarine 3000:

1 Supreme commander
6 Tactical squads
3 Rhino
1 Vindicator
1 Hunter

4 Devastator Squads
2 Rhino

1 Chaplain
4 Assault units

4 Assault units

2 Predator Annihilator
2 Predator Destructor

4 Land Raider

4 Whirliwind
1 Hunter

2 Thunderbolt units

2 Thunderbolt units

Warhound Titan

Warhound Titan

Orks 3000:

1 Warlord
4 Nobz
4 Gretchin
12 Ork boyz
8 Battlewagons
2 Flakwagon

4 Nobz
4 Gretchin
12 Ork Boyz
2 Stompa
4 Stormboyz

8 Gunwagon
1 Gunwagon + Oddboyz (supa zzap gun)
1 Gunwagon + Oddboyz (supa zzap gun)

3 Stompa
4 Dreadnought
1 SupaStompa

3 Fighta Bomber

3 Fighta Bomber

8 Bike Units
4 Buggies
4 Skorchas

Imperial Guard Steel Legion 3000:

1 Supreme Commander
12 Guards
7 Chimera
1 Hydra

9 Leman Russ
1 Vanquisher

2 Shadosword
1 Baneblade
3 Demolisher

1 Commander
12 Guard
4 Fire support
4 Ogryns

2 Thunderbolt

2 Thunderbolt

8 Stormtrooper
4 Valkyre

Black legion 3000pts

1 Chaos Space Marine lord (Warlord)(und)
8 Chaos space marine
Daemonic pact
4 Rhino
2 Chaos land raider
4 Havocs

1 Chaos space marine Lord (khorne)
8 Bike (Juggernought)
Daemonic pact
1 Icon bearer

1 Death Wheel
1 Decimator

2 Helltaolon

3 Swiftdeath interceptor

14 Lesser Deamon
1 Greater demon

1 Chaos Sorcerer (Nurgle)
8 Chaos space marine
4 Plague marine
3 Dreadnought
Daemonic pact

I created this lists mostly with my painted minis in mind but i can make change if the armies are unbalanced or unfunny to play.
Any advice is welcome!

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netepic

Post subject: Some advice

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:06 am

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Nice space marine force - not too struck on the LR's but that it just as I feel they are overcosted, Warhounds are pretty essential, good mix of infantry but lacks terminators one of the Marines few bargain units.

IG looks cool but no artillery? Come on lets get a battery or two in there

Can't comment on Orks or Chaos as i've not wielded them in battle yet.

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shimond

Post subject: Some advice

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:22 am

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(netepic @ Apr. 29 2008,08:06)

QUOTE

IG looks cool but no artillery? Come on lets get a battery or two in there

I've got a full artillery company but sadly it is not painted

Also i think IG artillery are too powerful, especially against orks armies, am i wrong? I't's a feeling, nothing real to base my argumentation.

For the termy you are right but i don't have the miniatures

Thanks

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Tiny-Tim

Post subject: Some advice

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:31 am

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From my experience, I would move the stompas from the warband across to the Stompa Mob.

For the IG list I'd drop the Demolishers and split the SHT comapny into three support formations for greater flexability.

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netepic

Post subject: Some advice

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:42 am

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Does the SHT company have to remain in coherency then? Can it not be split like in NetEPIC days?

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Dwarf Supreme

Post subject: Some advice

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:42 pm

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(netepic @ Apr. 29 2008,06:42)

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Does the SHT company have to remain in coherency then? Can it not be split like in NetEPIC days?

Unit coherency for WEs is 5cm x starting DC.

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netepic

Post subject: Some advice

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:39 pm

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Oh well - it'll be a bugger of a formation for my opponent to break none the less. Game scheduled for next monday.

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shimond

Post subject: Some advice

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:46 pm

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Thank you all, great advices.
Today i've take my dusted ultramarines and i set up the painting station, i realize now that at the time i first painted my marines i've used the ultramarine spray...very, very bad...

But my forgeworld warhound are awesome! :cool:

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