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Legion 4	Post subject: What is missing from the E-A rules? Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:53 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36989 Location: Ohio - USA	That's great, anything you think is worthwhile - send it to Jervis!!! ? We have a lot of veteran & knowlegdeable players here with some good ideas. ? Assault Boats? - - more new models?! ? And I would not be surprised if F/W makes Epic Ork Bommas in the image of their 40K version in '04... _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: What is missing from the E-A rules? Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:59 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Dafrca, I sent the ideas and let him decide what to use. By the way, new errata will be posted today and here is just one part (note the new formation): There is more but I thought you would like the new Ork formation :-) Dafrca. Thanks for the information. I hope you don't expect me to stop complaining... ? Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. P.S. See if you can persuade / encourage Jervis to make AA turrets an option for Gargant bastions since it appears that you have his ear. I've been advocating that one for some time. (A double or quadruple mounting would be worth the three Big Gunz) _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/

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dafrca	Post subject: What is missing from the E-A rules? Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:07 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:02 pm Posts: 10956 Location: Burbank, CA, USA	Just to be clear (I saw my post wasn't as clear as I should have been)... The Errata #4 was posted to the playtest site and the file will be up on the vault later today. There is a lot of new stuff. And best of all it looks like all three of the "core" armies got new stuff. Dafrca _________________ "Every Man is a But Spark in the Darkness"               - Cities of Death, page 59 Come fight me, if you dare...... http://dd-janks.mybrute.com
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dafrca	Post subject: What is missing from the E-A rules? Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:35 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:02 pm Posts: 10956 Location: Burbank, CA, USA	Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 23 2003 June,08:59) See if you can persuade / encourage Jervis to make AA turrets an option for Gargant bastions since it appears that you have his ear. I've been advocating that one for some time. (A double or quadruple mounting would be worth the three Big Gunz) I would be glad to pass on the idea. It is not that I have his ear so much as I am just loud. You know, I voice my opinion if it is wanted or not :-) Dafrca _________________ "Every Man is a But Spark in the Darkness"               - Cities of Death, page 59 Come fight me, if you dare...... http://dd-janks.mybrute.com
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nealhunt	Post subject: What is missing from the E-A rules? Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:30 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	Maksim:  I moved this over here to avoid thread crossover. Let me try a different direction. What strategic choices do you want available to Orks? In what way the changes you want to the Ork army list provide those? _________________ Neal
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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: What is missing from the E-A rules? Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:02 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Neil, Basically, it revolves around the advantage that Orks can get by taking hordes of small formations.  All the extra activations gives them a lot of tactical flexibility and individual detachments are so small they are disposable. I was initially resistant to the idea and thought that the battle reports sounded as if the Ork opponents were just making mistakes.  However, when every single playtest comes up with the same results, it's hard to believe that's coincidence. I think the strategic flexibility must be a very strong point for the orks, but there seems to be something terribly un-Orky about it.   I guess the attack of the pipsqueak units has been controlled by JJ's new rules that at least half of the Ork formations must be double-sized. The whole 'Big' and 'Uge' sounds an awful lot like the supersizing that fast food restaurants offer!   Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/

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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: What is missing from the E-A rules? Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:04 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Neil, Let me try a different direction. What strategic choices do you want available to Orks? In what way the changes you want to the Ork army list provide those?   I'm getting ready to head out the door so I'll think about this while on errands and get back to you. I should to respond to the "Arty" topic ASAP as well. Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/

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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: What is missing from the E-A rules? Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:56 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Neil, What strategic choices would you want to be available to Orks? Actually, I'm pretty happy with the ammended by errata list. I still have my reservations about a few of the Ork stats, but I'm pretty happy with things how they are. Battlefortresses still need variable loads though. Supagunz should have a mobile version or Battlefortresses with the option to carry them. The SupaStompa seems a tad expensive for its' capabilty. What do you think? In what ways would the changes you desire for the Orks be provided to the army list?

At this point, cost adjustment and the addition of a few units would wrap things up.

That is until the Feral Orks list comes out...  

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.