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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines  Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:14 pm |
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| Quote (nealhunt @ 03 2005 June,22:15) | | I would greatly prefer separate TL, AM (Ordinati), and Knight Household lists. ?The CI could be put into a new IG list, possibly Cadian for instance. ?I believe that would give a much crisper, cleaner flavor to units that really deserve the full treatment. |
Neal
I would rather that this AMTL list is a bit like the 3 lists in the main rulebook- these 3 generic lists for IG/SM/Orks have been followed by more restrictive thematic lists such as Siegemasters, White Scars, KoS/Snakebitez etc.
I would love in the future to see follow up lists (whether official or fan lists) for certain variant Titan Legios/Knight Households.
But I would rather get official playtested stats for each of the main units first. And after the disappointments of SG Support I don't want to gamble that we will get future official playtested lists.
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:01 am |
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Got the data on Ordinati, CI and Ork Speedstas ... the vault is a good thing !  We went on line at my gaming buddie's hooch and he printed the stuff for me ! And for the record ... I hate Knights ... don't have many, only the ones from TL (and they were converted to Chaos !) 
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:48 pm |
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| Quote (primarch @ 05 2005 June,16:01) | | I would really like to see more fan driven version take off. Its nice to have netepic around, but epic would be more robust if say a Netepic A or even a Netepic 40k existed. The amount of ideas and "cross-pollination" would drive each project for a long time. |
I agree with this up to a point, and would be more than happy to actually lead the charge on this. The only thing that I am worried about is diluting the Epic population. While EpicA still features as part of the SG catalogue, and while the Vault is functioning as a rally point, then I think that a project like this could harm the game. However, if EpicA is ever totally dropped, the web site scrapped and SG disbanded (and two years ago I would not have believed that I would even be talking about this), then I would love to get this off the ground.
I guess that I will keep an eye on progress. I really like EpicA as a game, and it is my favourite version. I have not been tempted to consider this kind of action before._________________ https://www.cybershadow.ninja - A brief look into my twisted world, including wargames and beyond. https://www.net-armageddon.org - The official NetEA (Epic Armageddon) site and resource.
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:47 pm |
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E:A is the best version IMO, and we will use 85-90% of it, plus some stuff from SM1-2, E40K, etc. ! Good show, Boyz !!
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:12 pm |
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| Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 05 2005 June,20:14) | | Quote (nealhunt @ 03 2005 June,22:15) | | I would greatly prefer separate TL, AM (Ordinati), and Knight Household lists. |
Neal
I would rather that this AMTL list is a bit like the 3 lists in the main rulebook- these 3 generic lists for IG/SM/Orks have been followed by more restrictive thematic lists such as Siegemasters, White Scars, KoS/Snakebitez etc. |
I actually see the AM, TL, and Knights as sub-lists. They are all basically like the gargant-focused OGBM, but with Titans, Ordinati or Knights as the focus and IG (Tech Guard) as support. Sure, the tech guard may have slightly different units and organization, but the basics are still going to be very similar to IG.
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:43 pm |
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Hi!
CS, I would agree its a watch and wait game at this point. Its always easier to pick up the ball when GW drops it than try to give it a go while they still hold sway.
I recognize there is always that player desire for "officiality" as defined by being "GW sponsored or produced". Heck I would mind if they finally made a fully supported version of epic. But given their current course that not happening. So, I'd keep an eye out, perhaps contact people you favor to form the core "team". Some forethought and planification would not hurt for when the day comes.
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:06 am |
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| Quote (primarch @ 06 2005 June,13:43) | | So, I'd keep an eye out, perhaps contact people you favor to form the core "team". Some forethought and planification would not hurt for when the day comes. |
My Dad always said, "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst."
I think that applies here for sure.
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:26 am |
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Hi!
But Makisim, whose talking about a schism?
Fan based efforts need not "compete" with the parent company, just "do its own thing." Besides the only real schism as such was during Epic 40k.... 
Also if it were for efforts like yours and other dedicated fans then Epic would have never "died" (in a commerical sense) in the first place. The sad truth is that it is GW which will kill or resuscitate epic. Our efforts, however Herculean cannot forestall the inevitable if GW has decreed it as such.
Thats why I recommend "doing your own thing." I hate having peoples work being taken for granted when the parent company, in realistic terms, could care less. Note, Jervis caring is not the same. He's just a peon in the great corporate structure which is GW. I sometimes feel extremely sorry for him. It must hurt seeing GW poo-poo over his efforts to make the game system prosper. But, without GW's muscle (resources, real support and wide raning distribution), Epic will not go beyond what it current is. A hobby for a few rabid fans....
...although its cool being a rabid fan.....
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:25 am |
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All Hail the rabid fanz!  
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:44 am |
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I agree with Maksim on this one. While EA has passing GW support, then I will stick with it. No matter how much an alternative system is designed to fit alongside the 'official' version, there will still be perceived competition between them.
If, at any time, EA goes under in the same way that E40K did (no visable support, online mention, store support or published material) then I would CONTINUE EpicA, rather than create an alternative. I just think that it would be easier to continue the community and development 'out of house' rather than trying to sell people on a 'new' version.
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:05 pm |
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mmm.....rabid fanaticism......mmmmmmmm
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Post subject: Desert Ferrin to fight the Marines Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:45 pm |
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