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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:26 am 
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The Eldar "pop-up" ability makes them quite challenging, I imagine the TAU are similar. The OW (FF -Snap Fire, SM1) is valid and I have used it against the Eldar.  However like many novice tacticians, (I'm not saying anyone here, it's rhetorical !) fail to use a flanking maneuver with one force on OW/FF and another attacking their flanks, is a good method.  Plus FA and CAS ...

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 10:27 pm 
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Pretty much the same issue as most versions with the eldar pop-up. You either assault them with rapid deployment (T hawks, drop pods) or use big gun units on snap fire to pick them off.

I favored a reaver with three turbo lasers for that task.... :;):

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:58 am 
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Quote (iblisdrax @ 20 2005 May,21:14)
I just hate over using the overwatch tatic, not because it is sound doctrine (cuz it IS against the Eldar) but because it tends to lead to even more static games than the IG are used to already.  
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The trick is to use some shooty units in overwatch while maneuvering with fast units. Of course, this is nearly always harder to implement than it sounds. Still, when it's working it makes for memorable games.  :)

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:34 pm 
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All you really need is some units to make the Eldar player WORRY about retaliation. Then the rest of your force can do the job. Its sort of what I do with chaos. I bring a LOB just becuase I know its such an inviting target for the opponent who will spend the firepower on its, while my ground troops close the breech to engange him..... :;):

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 3:45 pm 
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Yep ! ?Mojarn is correct ... fire and maneuver ... It can be done successfully in Epic especially now with E:A "activation rules" ! We've been doing since '90. ? :;):  Don't get caught up in running into the middle of the board and using you bolter as a club !  This ain't 40K !  :laugh:




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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:16 pm 
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Quote (Legion 4 @ 23 2005 May,07:45)
Don't get caught up in running into the middle of the board and using you bolter as a club ! ?This ain't 40K ! ?:laugh:

:laugh:

I hated that in 40k. I love watching a 40k player who tries a game like DSII or Stargrunt for the first time. Their shock and dismay are priceless.  :cool:

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:02 am 
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I know what you mean Dafrca...

..."whaddya mean charging up the middle in open ground gets you slaughtered!? I thought this game was supposed to be realistic!? What a crock."

Gotta love GW..... :;):

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:37 am 
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Quote (primarch @ 23 2005 May,16:02)
I know what you mean Dafrca...

..."whaddya mean charging up the middle in open ground gets you slaughtered!? I thought this game was supposed to be realistic!? What a crock."

Gotta love GW..... :;):

:laugh:

Yep, too funny!

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Tactics ... vs. kids playing with "bright, shiny things" ! :laugh:

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:41 am 
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Quote (Legion 4 @ 23 2005 May,20:54)
Tactics ... vs. kids playing with "bright, shiny things" ! :laugh:

Now to be clear, the fact I like games that use thought does not proclude me from being a Kid (just ask Trish) or from wanting to play with my "bright, shiny things". :;):

**dafrca looks over where he has lined up his Titan Legion and smiles.**

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Hi!

As the saying goes...

...you differentiate the men from the boys by the price of their toys....

...a truer statement has yet to be uttered.... :;):

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Quote (Legion 4 @ 23 2005 May,15:45)
Don't get caught up in running into the middle of the board and using you bolter as a club ! ?This ain't 40K ! ?:laugh:

To be fair 'running up the middle in the open and using your bolter as a club' is not a tactic that will work against shooting armies in 40k anymore. 4th editions rapid fire rules make even lasguns capable of pumping out a devastating amount of firepower. To get to close combat intact, assault troops really do need to make careful use of cover or armour (tanks - not what they are wearing!).

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Quote (Markconz @ 24 2005 May,18:32)
To be fair 'running up the middle in the open and using your bolter as a club' is not a tactic that will work against shooting armies in 40k anymore. 4th editions rapid fire rules make even lasguns capable of pumping out a devastating amount of firepower. To get to close combat intact, assault troops really do need to make careful use of cover or armour (tanks - not what they are wearing!).

Yes, it has gotten better, but it still is Herohammer, it still often comes down to who has the best Hand-to-hand "Cheesemaster" Leader. I sat and watched a couple of games just this Sunday. Bugs vs. Eldar and Marines vs. Guard.

Tactics did not win either game.  :L

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Epic Rulz !!! :D

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:D LOL

I was going to say that too L4.... :;):

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