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Looking for Ork Advice
stormseer	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:10 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:52 pm Posts: 4598 Location: Suffolk, UK.	Wow, great idea for an article! Knowing your painting speed D, you'll have that lot polished off in a few weeks and up on the web.... **I see Eldar titan feet mentioned in one auction.... I am sorely in need of _one_, so keep me in mind if you don't need them!   _________________ www.darkrealmminiatures.com
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nealhunt	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:40 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	I luvs me some orks. ==== You have two limitations that I can see.  You don't have enough grots to do a mainstream ork army and you don't have enough buggies or other appropriate raw material to make tons of trukks for a speed freeks list. Of course, while you have some boarz, I think you're nowhere near a respectable feral ork army. From what you have, I would head towards lots of mounted warbands.  You have tons of battlewagons to mount them in, and they make for a good, surprisingly fast core to the army. I think you have enough stormboyz to build a single mob  (6 stands).  It's not going to do much in a game, but they are good for piling on assaults, screening bigger formations so they dont' get pinned down by enemy scouts.  Basically, a sacrifice unit or something to snag objectives with late in the game. You have plenty of warbuggies.  They make for good all-around Kults of Speed.  They can do everything okay - shoot, CC and FF - so they can be used in an opportunistic manner.  One of the best uses for them is the old double move and fire, followed by an assault with them in support. You also have enough bikes and skorchas to make a more assault-oriented KoS.  Bikes for the CC, Skorchas for the FF because you will never get a big or uge KoS into base contact all at once.  And buggies are fine for filler to bulk out such a mob if you want.  Some people will say not to mix the LVs and infantry, but my experience has been that even though it looks bad on paper, it works just fine in play. I love Big and Uge Gunzmobs and you will have plenty of guns.  Add the maximum allowed nobz so they can shed blast markers and if you round up some models or do some conversions, 2-3 Oddboyz gives 2 templates of MW.  A lot of people hate them because they have some drawbacks (no mob up bonus), but I think it's a matter of style.  Use them aggressively with lots of double moves.  They won't hit much, but they can take ground and if they get into FF range, they are quite good.  Don't get me wrong, they are decimated about as often as not in the games I play, but they do take the enemy's attention and make them do things they might not want to otherwise. You probably have enough gunwagons to make a respectable Blitz Brigade.  I wouldn't take less than a big one unless you are adding fortresses.  They are, obviously, best used as light tanks.  They are quite fast and can perform the same kinds of actions as warbuggies (double move and shoot, then support an assault), but it's best to use their range and keep them back a bit. It's shaping up to be a pretty shooty ork force - I highly approve. _________________ Neal
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dysartes	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:48 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:16 pm Posts: 908	Well, having sat down with my rulebook earlier, I knocked up a quick list based off what I've got, and how the models are "themed" already. Giving myself a 3k total, I ended up with this: Big Warband (Goffs) + 3 Nobz + 1 Stormboy + 4 Boyz + 12 Battlewagons (+ Warboss) - 1000 Big Warband (Bad Moons) + 2 Boyz + 4 Big Gunz + 4 Dreadnoughts - 620 Normal Kult O' Speed - 5 Warbikes & 10 Warbuggies + 1 Gunwagon w/ Oddboy - 460 Normal Kult O' Speed (9 Skorchas) - 225 Mekboy Stompamob (Goffs) + Stompa - 300 Mekboy Gunzmob (Bad Moons) (8 Big Gunz) - 200 Blitz Brigade (Goffs) - 5 Gunwagons - 185* Total: 2990 * - The Blitz Brigade is really there to help on activations, though one solution to that is to break the 2 Kults into 3 formations, and possible split one of the two warbands Interestingly, the above list makes use of none of the Evil Sunz warband, only the Goffs, Bad Moonz and Kult o' Speed..... _________________ The forgotten Champion - AMTL, baby! Dysartes.com - Resources for the Modern Wargamer - Last updated: December 2004 - Next Update: In Progress Sentinels are just young titans that haven't grown up yet!
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vanvlak	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:38 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:52 am Posts: 10348 Location: Malta	Quote (stormseer @ 17 2005 Mar.,16:10) Wow, great idea for an article! Knowing your painting speed D, you'll have that lot polished off in a few weeks and up on the web.... Stormy, you're insulting the man - one week will be more than enough...   _________________ Back from oblivion (again)?
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Mojarn Piett	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:23 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:35 am Posts: 5455 Location: Finland	Quote (dysartes @ 17 2005 Mar.,13:30) Auctions won, but awaiting delivery Lots of stuff - need to look at the orks as a % of that auction, and work out a cost from there. This also gives me some trade stuff If you are interested in getting rid of the Chaos & IG sprues let me know.   _________________ I don't know and I let who care. -J.S.
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dysartes	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:26 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:16 pm Posts: 908	Quote (vanvlak @ 18 2005 Mar.,07:38) Stormy, you're insulting the man - one week will be more than enough... ? Well, I can't start any work in what's left of this week, due to Uni work - but we'll see what I can get done in my Easter break (ie, the next 3 weeks)..... Mojarn Piett/Stormseer - I'l keep you in mind for when that auction arrives, OK? _________________ The forgotten Champion - AMTL, baby! Dysartes.com - Resources for the Modern Wargamer - Last updated: December 2004 - Next Update: In Progress Sentinels are just young titans that haven't grown up yet!
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stormseer	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:31 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:52 pm Posts: 4598 Location: Suffolk, UK.	Cheers! ... next 3 weeks eh? We'll hold you to it! _________________ www.darkrealmminiatures.com
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dysartes	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:11 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:16 pm Posts: 908	Well, I just based my 4 Mekboy vehicles, and my 2 Gunwagons (along with Ordinatus Mars), so they're vaguely ready. Admittedly, I think I'm only using the Doomdiver Magna Kannon in the list over the page, but y'know, it helps me be ready. I think I'm gonna need some more Warmaster bases _________________ The forgotten Champion - AMTL, baby! Dysartes.com - Resources for the Modern Wargamer - Last updated: December 2004 - Next Update: In Progress Sentinels are just young titans that haven't grown up yet!
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vanvlak	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:29 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:52 am Posts: 10348 Location: Malta	Admittedly, I think I'm only using the Doomdiver Magna Kannon in the list over the page, but y'know, it helps me be ready. ? don't get it - sorry, dumb mode still on here... I use mine as a Flakwagon. I think I'm gonna need some more Warmaster bases

Heard that, Warmaster? Watch out for Dysartes, he's after your bases!
(along with Ordinatus Mars)

It's the casual way he says these things that gets me - just painting a 150GBP army, and, while I'm at it, based an Ordinatus to keep things going..... groan! Why does he even need a 3-week break!
Cheers Dysartes - have fun!