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A brave new game?
Legion 4
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:10 pm 
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That is good, I hoped F/W would carry the ball !  But as I have said before, with all the versions of Epic around, if they opened up the Archives, there are plenty of models there ! ( :angry: )  Not that I have anything against new models, but as I have said before, as F/W clearly demonstated, how may versions of something do we need ??!  F/W has produced a number of redunant models ! Especially for the IG and Eldar, IMO.   New stuff is most welcome but the 4th and 5th version of a Chimera, Basilisk, Falcon, etc., etc. makes no sense to me.  My other concern is that F/W Epic tends to be a bit fragile, I see that as a minor annoyance.  However, as in life, nothing's perfect.  I would (do) look forward to F/W Epic releases like Tallarn and Elysian (?) Infantry, Kroot Knarlacs (yes, I said it again !) :D , Chaos, Necrons, SoBs and maybe even 'Nids !  But no more IG AFVs, SMs, Orks  or Eldar, there are enough of those around !  Check out eBaY ! :laugh:   :;):

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:09 pm 
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Good news on the epic front.
Specialist inf would be nice,nids and Knarlocs(I'm in the same glee club on that front L4:D )

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:45 pm 
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Hi!

Go FW!

Glad to see they'll be picking up the slack! :)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:08 am 
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Go T&K !!!! :;):

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:59 am 
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Great News! :)  

Makes me wonder, though, why FW can operate fairly sucessfully on its own, while SG could not.  
(Dream Mode/on)  What if SG had been reorganized along the same lines as FW?  (Dream Mode /off)  ???

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:33 am 
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Makes me wonder, though, why FW can operate fairly sucessfully on its own, while SG could not.


From what I understand, SG was probably profitable, but less profitable than the huge cash cows of WFB and WH40K. So the goal is to slowly strangle SG, and reaffect the resources. FW seems to have an approach centered less around "more profits and the rest be damned".

Regarding FW stepping up, it's certainly good news for the more wealthy among us (especially as far as infantry is concerned). But we should also remember that FW miniatures are much less "user friendly" than the classic plastic and metal from GW : they are more fragile, longer to prepare before painting and harder to paint.

Also, FW seems to have a development schedule focused on the aesthetic value of models, not on gameplay. We will have to see how that will work.

In the end, while I would prefer to see the current synergy between SG and FW continue, this is certainly good news especially when compared to the alternative of nothing new. Most minis coming from FW would definitely keep EA a niche product, though (imagine building a SM army at current Grey Knights rate :O )

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:21 pm 
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I'm sorry I know I've been out of the loop and all but what happen to Specialist games.  Ok the last I heard was fanatic was going to an ezine.  Now I get the impression that they are no longer doing minis.  Is this true and when did this happen?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:41 pm 
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Hi,

Fanatic/SG is still making minis for Epic, just at a slower rate than before, and most of their releases will be older stuff repackaged (although there was talk of Tyranids being new designs). And with this reduction in production by SG themselves, GW have given FW the go ahead to produce more stuff for the SG range. From what I've read, it mainly means that we might see a wider range of minis than we feared we would get after the fall of Fanatic. Although nowhere have I seen anything posted to say that the future armies won't be produced in some numbers by GW, so a lot of what is written on certain other forums (not mentioning any names...) is a bit over-reactionary.

On a side note, I hope GW produces the flyer units for future armies, I really hate the oversized FW flyers and would hate to see them become the norm. :(

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:52 pm 
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Hi

I e-mailed FW about the new Catalogue, forthcoming price raises and future models (specifically Voss Prows for BFG and any new Epic figures). This was the response:

"the prices are likely to be in effect on the website in the next 24 hours,small technically difficulties have slowed this transition, as for the Voss pattern things, it was an idea of Tony's a few years ago but has remained that way and i can honestly tell you that if we do do them then il will not be in the near future. As for the list of Epic items you have provided ihave not heard even rumours of us doing any of them, not to say we will not but they are certainly not on the production schedule for the next year or two."
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:49 pm 
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Ouch... That hurt... :(
We can only pray that the confusion is because FW hasn't informed everybody there and formed a clear policy on the area... ...Even though it is difficult not to be cynical...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:31 pm 
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Aye- tis a shame. I know it was the one bright spark of good news on SG Epic Forums recently.

I am also disapointed about BFG Voss Prows. I want to do a Battlefleet Armageddon and my converting skills are not up to doing 4-6 Voss Pattern CAs/CLs. Actually not up to doing just the 1 conversion.
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Recently FW have been very quick to release Epic versions of W40k models using their de-biggulator. So I was hoping that Elysian Drop Troops might make Epic scale soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:11 pm 
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Maybe it is just a case of mass confusion...no wait, that NEVER happens in the corporate world.... :p

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:32 am 
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Hi!

While speeches of optimisms are rare from me....

...FW is epic's only hope.....

...I will keep that hope, come what may. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:52 am 
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Quote (Freshmetal @ 03 2005 Mar.,19:41)
On a side note, I hope GW produces the flyer units for future armies, I really hate the oversized FW flyers and would hate to see them become the norm. :(

It ain't a case of the planes being too big, they're just at the proper scale (going by published dimension stats) for the first time. If anything certain other units may actually be scaled so they're too small, but ratio-wise, the FW flyers are pretty much spot on.

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I love the REALISTIC scaled FW flyers, they are not too small!! :p

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