Login |  Register |  FAQ
   
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 2
  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
Tas
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:12 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am
Posts: 7823
Location: Sydney, NSW
Jervis has put an interesting explanation of the specialist games sales logic over at the playtest boards after we Aussies were whinging about the lack of support.

Its worth a quick read...

http://forums.specialist-games.com/epic40k...._ID=243

_________________
Tas
My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/
My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/
My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
MaksimSmelchak
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:56 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm
Posts: 7258
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
I always like it when they let us know what is going on! ???

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.

_________________
6mm Sci-fi:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/
My Personal Blog:
http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Legion 4
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:11 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm
Posts: 36984
Location: Ohio - USA
G/W and F/W don't appear to know what's going on many times...
On any given day it's anyone's guess. J.J., Tony, Andy, Gav...
Or the guy who runs the Fish & Chips place up the road from the G/W UK building? :angry:

_________________
Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
primarch
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:40 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 12:46 am
Posts: 27069
Location: Edmond, Oklahoma USA
Hi!

I was following that thread and here is the "in between the lines translation" of it:

Fanatic games don't sell well enough to justify sending stuff there. No game that doesn't sell on par with the core games such as 40k or warhammer will EVER get the support or resource allocation they do.

Never mind that there is a implicit vicous cycle in this line of thought:

no resource allocation--no product availability--no sales--no money made--which justifies not allocating resources in the first place.

Unfortunately while Jervis points out a very real issue about supply cost versus amount ot be sold, I think one should point out that even in places where this is an issue like GWUS, there WILL be store managers who will not order any Epic stating space constraints of other such things.

So while there may be some cost issues, there are also store "attitude" problems I think GW should look into.

Primarch

_________________
Primarch


The Primarchload
Magnetized Titans Tutorial
Net Epic Gold
Heresy Rules
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
nealhunt
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:57 pm 
Purestrain
Purestrain

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm
Posts: 9617
Location: Nashville, TN, USA
Dafrca:  I just want to thank you for the work you are doing on the playtest board.

You know I'm pretty hardcore about that stuff, and I find myself unable to wade through all that.  Cheers to you for the effort you must be putting into it.

I hope that when the list gets a JJ review and posted to the vault that some of the insane amount of alternative proposals go away. :oo

Thanks again.

_________________
Neal
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Warmaster Nice
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:37 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:15 pm
Posts: 7948
Location: Denmark
INdeed! :O  I gave up trying to folow all those threads months ago!
I guess I'm just not playtest material a I really don't like to argue on for ages about details, if this and that is fair or trying to make sense of all the insane ammount of numbercrunching! :p
I just have a few unitlls I'd like to see in the list and a few ideas how they could be included. Anything beyond that is not really my cup of tea.

Thanks for your efforts Daf. It is crazy that the AM/TL forum is growing bigger than the painting/modelling forum and you find the time to not only read, but also make sense of it all.

Cheers! :)

_________________
Sofa General

Nobody expects the Inquisition!!!
http://theepiclounge.wordpress.com/
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
wargame_insomniac
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:06 pm 
Purestrain
Purestrain

Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:42 pm
Posts: 3305
Location: West Yorkshire, UK
Quote (nealhunt @ 12 2005 Jan.,14:57)
Dafrca: ?I just want to thank you for the work you are doing on the playtest board.

Indeed- and to echo WMN, I have found it hard to keep up with all of the long threads on unit selection and weapon stats.

I am sure that JJ will have appreciated the sheer amount of hard work that you have put in to getting a first draft playtest list up.

Cheers

James

_________________
My TOEG- Blood Angels and Deathbolts
My Painting Blog- Evil Sunz, Goffs
My Epic trades list
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Justiniel
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:45 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:59 am
Posts: 3280
Location: Holywood, Northern Ireland
Hear, hear, keep up the good work Dafrca. I've only skimmed through the 'finalised' list periodically rather than wade through the discussions, it's just too much work for me!

_________________
I'm involved in Nunnery Practice :laugh:
My latest Blog http://www.players.tacticalwargames.net ... p?blogId=8
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
dysartes
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:38 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:16 pm
Posts: 908
Quote (nealhunt @ 12 2005 Jan.,14:57)
I hope that when the list gets a JJ review and posted to the vault that some of the insane amount of alternative proposals go away. :oo

Just out of interest, neal, what do you think falls under the heading of "more insane proposals"?

_________________
The forgotten Champion - AMTL, baby!

Dysartes.com - Resources for the Modern Wargamer - Last updated: December 2004 - Next Update: In Progress

Sentinels are just young titans that haven't grown up yet!
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
nealhunt
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:41 pm 
Purestrain
Purestrain

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm
Posts: 9617
Location: Nashville, TN, USA
I referred to an insane amount of proposals, not to insane proposals. ?Most of the proposals themselves make at least a modicum of sense.

Unfortunately, the sheer volume of the proposals is (for me, anyway) preventing meaningful discussion. ?Every thread rapidly generates discussion on 2 to 3 additional alternative proposals. ?It's not uncommon for discussion to degenerate into "My version!" ?"No, my version!" with very little progress being made.

This is not to be derogatory to anyone who is participating. ?They are polite, sincere, and generally have good ideas and solid arguments. ?It's just very a chaotic process and does not seem to be productive.

========

BTW, how do I go edit the title of this thread so I can fix that typo?




_________________
Neal
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Reaversbane
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:59 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:13 pm
Posts: 283
Location: North Wales, UK
Ive said a few times in the AMTL section that it is quite confusing...I get pretty lost but Im determined to wade through it. Myself and a couple of others (Dysartes comes to mind   :;): ) have been trying to shift the discussion to a slightly 'broader' view, so that we dont get so bogged down in the details.

Progress is being made, and Ive certainly started to follow stuff and feel some things were being resolved recently...but in the last 24 hours (which sounds daft even as I write it) there seem to be a load of new topics that are gonna take a while to digest and get in to...

In response to the sheer number of proposals nealhunt...what Ive found is that actually making your opinion a proposal is the best way to get it acknowledged and responded to. It kinda logs it as an 'event' almost, that people actually see, rather than comments on someone else's work, which can get lost...but I will certainly grant it can get a little out of hand at times... :)

_________________
Reaversbane (or RB for short...)
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
CyberShadow
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:31 pm 
Swarm Tyrant
Swarm Tyrant
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:22 pm
Posts: 9348
Location: Singapore
Quote (nealhunt @ 13 2005 Jan.,15:41)
BTW, how do I go edit the title of this thread so I can fix that typo?

You need to use the 'Edit this Topic' link at the bottom of thepage, rather than the usual edit button on the post.  :-:

_________________
https://www.cybershadow.ninja - A brief look into my twisted world, including wargames and beyond.
https://www.net-armageddon.org - The official NetEA (Epic Armageddon) site and resource.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
nealhunt
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:31 pm 
Purestrain
Purestrain

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm
Posts: 9617
Location: Nashville, TN, USA
Reaversbane:  I understand that.  It just wears me out.  No worries, though.  I really think it will be more "stable" (for lack of a better term) once there is a playtest list posted.

BTW, you can just call me Neal instead of using the screen name.


Cybershadow:  I don't see it.  I see track, email, and print, and down at the very bottom in the Topic Options, it says "Close this topic."  Am I just blind?

_________________
Neal
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
netepic
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:33 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:26 pm
Posts: 7016
Location: Southfields, London, England
Do you need to be a moderator to edit topic titles?

_________________
Tom Webb
Author Page: http://www.newtonwebb.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/thewebb
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/thenewtonwebb
Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/thenewtonwebb
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Warmaster Nice
 Post subject: E-A Sales Through Specialist Games -
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:30 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:15 pm
Posts: 7948
Location: Denmark
I agree that with so many suggestions floating arround the only thing left to do now is to hand it over to Jervis and let him go through it. The result will probably tick a bunch of people off because their suggestions weren't used but in the end the playtest board is their to help the game designers develop ideas, NOT to tell Jervis how he should make his game.

Cheers!

_________________
Sofa General

Nobody expects the Inquisition!!!
http://theepiclounge.wordpress.com/
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 2
  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 30 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB ® Forum Software © phpBB Group
CoDFaction Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net