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Post subject: Next batch of E:A models is up for pre-order  Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 1:25 pm |
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Even Gothic, which is one of the largest Fanatic games (particularly in the US), does not produce the resources to warrant plastics. All Fanatic ships for that have been metal.
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Post subject: Next batch of E:A models is up for pre-order Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 3:17 pm |
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Surely there must be a cheaper way to produce plastics? How does Airfix produce so many plastic models? And sell them cheap?
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Post subject: Next batch of E:A models is up for pre-order Posted: Mon May 12, 2003 5:13 pm |
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I guess we can gripe a lot about it, but let us remember at least we are getting some plastics....that is better than NO plastics.
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Heh- can't agree more Primarch.... indeed!
Chris said:
Surely there must be a cheaper way to produce plastics? How does Airfix produce so many plastic models? And sell them cheap? |
Yeah, this was something that I was very curious about when I first joined the hobby, aroung 5 years or so ago.... previously I had collected loads of Airfix models (which meant my painting was already pretty good when I started the far more expensive hobby of 40k
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I think it comes down to things like Airfix being a far older comapny, completley world-wide, lots of capital to spend on moulds, new designs etc, with many existing moulds that will continue to be used for ages- like the Spitfire, for example, there must have been
millions of them sold......
They probabaly have far more sales than GW models- some must be due to the fact they are much cheaper, and there are also lots of WW1 and 2 history enthusiasts who build them........
Hehe- I could be utterly wrong though- Anyone more in the know care to comment?
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Post subject: Next batch of E:A models is up for pre-order Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 12:23 am |
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I agree with whats been said here- GW are about making a profit, but they are are nowhere near Airfix/Revell/Insert megacorporation name here in global terms and cant afford everything we wargamers and collectors would like (I mean...MUST Have!  )
That said, the GW fish, while small in the global sea, is a big player in the tiny wargaming pond. They need to continue to invest in their chosen area to continue customer interest.
BUT, they cant rely on just redoing the models every few years as they do with some 40k figs, and they cant always rely on the "new blood" bringing in the cash because us older experienced types hang onto their stuff and get disillusioned when we can identify a rerelease of something frommore than 5 years ago...
I dont want this to become a rant on the "Evil Empire" because GW has done a great deal for the hobby over the last 20 years. I just think that it has become a little stagnant and expensive (even with inflation). I used to work in a gaming store many years ago and I saw kids convincing Granny to buy them the latest GW stuff for Christmas that they couldnt really afford on the pension, but did so to keep their grandkids happy.
Attitudes like that of GW Australia as discussed on another thread dont help either
Actually this does sound like a rant now so I'd better go. And yes I still buy GW stuff, but not in the quantities I used to.
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primarch
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Post subject: Next batch of E:A models is up for pre-order Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 1:30 am |
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Hi!
No problem Tas, gamers need to rant from time to time to allieviate stress 
Like other old timers, we can remember the "good 'ol days" when GW was more customer friendly and miss them. We all know what's happened since and yes it stinks. Heck, as a retailer I was one of those people personally responsible to get quite a few people hooked on GW games (for which I will burn in hell eternally as punishment  ), so it is angersome to see their crappy attitudes.
However instead of going down the road of eternal ranting (however fun it is for a while), it is OUR hobby and we need to provide for ourselves at least rules/fluffwise. I only need GW around for minis, so as long as they can keep pumping out a bare minimum I'm happy. Sure everyone likes new minis every other day and support by the truckload, but it has been made pretty clear that epic shall ever remain "a second tier game", which means second tier support and resources allocation. Again, that stinks, but the alternative is nothing. For those who remember the couple of years between epic40ks demise and the resurgence of epic of recent times, know what I mean. We already know what nothing is, however small, we are least getting something now.
So let us sing an ode to plastics, may they be here always!
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Post subject: Next batch of E:A models is up for pre-order Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 1:05 pm |
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what I find interesting is that back in the good old days and GW had a new release (eg Dwarfs or Imperial Guard) you use to get 20-30 different models, but now you get 2 or 3, possibly 4 different models.
My "old" Dwarf regiments use to be all unique, with the current models I can't do that without major conversion work.
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Do you mean the newer range of metal models Jimbo? If so, yeah I have to agree, especially things like the new deamons- great tho they are, there is not rally a great variety- I mixed up the new Nurglings, the second ed ones, and a few of the really old ones, do get some variety- there are only about 6 different varients of the new ones, compared to 20-odd for the oldest!
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