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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments?  Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:39 pm |
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:41 pm |
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One nice thing in the NetEpic list I will get to count things like my Imperator Titans, so maybe it will not be so bad. 
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:04 am |
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:25 am |
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Hi!
It will be interesting to see how close they values will be.
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:53 am |
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Man, am I envious!
My IG can break the 10K barrier only with help from Titan Legions. 
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:47 pm |
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Hi!
..but your concentrating on squats, maybe they have reach "primarchload level"?
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:49 pm |
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Yes, Maksim, do a count!
Between you and Tas I am sure there will be new apprentices soon. 
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:34 pm |
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:07 pm |
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I'll have to have a count up of my Imperials to see if they still reach 50K or more...... I'll report back sometime this century...
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:29 pm |
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I have started to make some headway on the NetEpic version of my list. Here is what I have found:
Infantry is the main issue between the two lists, however, I will get to them later.
Most Formations/Cards match up very close.
Examples:
Leman Russ Tank Company:
EA: 650
NE: 600
Super Heavy Bane Blade Co.
EA: 500
NE: 500
Sentinel Squad
EA: 100
NE: 100
Artillery Co. (9 Vehicles)
EA: 650
NE: 600
So if I had a collection of 1 each of these:
EA: 1900
NE: 1800
Now where it gets odd is with the troops. NE has troop formations much larger. To use an example, let?s use a Tactical Company. NetEpic has it as 32 Stands plus a Rhino for the commanders. This is 600 points. In EpicA the same ?formation? is only 13 stands at 250 points. If I up the EA formation by 3 that would give me 39 stands for 750 points.
Just for fun, let?s look at the average per stand.
EA: 19.23 per stand
NE: 18.75 per stand
About the same.
One last bit, the NetEpic rules have a lot more variations available in things like the Titans. In EA they are either a Reaver or not. No change for weapon configuration. It is what it is at 650 points. But in NetEpic, I could build a Reaver from 415 points to over 600 (675 if I arm it with one Vortex missile and 750 if I arm it with three, but that would be just cheesy).
So, unless I am missing something here is a total of our sample force:
Our four vehicle formations from above, 32 Stands of Troops (39 for EA), and 1 Reaver Titan.
EA: 1900 + 750 + 650 = 3300
NE: 1800 + 600 + 500 (armed as the EA titan) = 2900
Or a difference of about 400 points. Or NE being about 12% less.
OK, So where does dafrca stand? Well my 20k+ would drop by about 13%, but the 20k did not count the Imperator Titans or my Ordinatus Armageddon. So if we add back in the points for them I am still above 20k. 
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:44 pm |
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Hi!
Good analysis. Pretty much the same results I came too and as mentioned its a smaller difference between Epic A and netepic.
Try the same with marines and the difference grows.
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Post subject: 2000 point imperial gaurd any comments? Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:58 pm |
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| Quote (primarch @ 04 2004 Oct.,14:44) | Hi!
Good analysis. Pretty much the same results I came too and as mentioned its a smaller difference between Epic A and netepic.
Try the same with marines and the difference grows.
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Of course the difference is also based on the formations you own, the difference would be greater or less based on the exact formations you own.
As for the Marines, I will look at it. Should be interesting.
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