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Post subject: Epic Index Astartes!!!  Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:36 pm |
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| Quote (the_fifth_horseman @ 21 2004 Sep.,03:16) | Well, Jervis wrote once that minimum fair army size is 2000 pts, but I think it could be decreased down to 1000 - 1500 if need is.
If you are willing to actually playtest any of the lists, it will be a perfect aid in getting them correct. |
 I like to field a company plus support. This means 1500-2000 points is good 1000 points would be a minimum.
Actually, now that I think about it, 1000 would be good for starting play test.
Would I be correct it saying...
The units are going to be basicly Space Marines so if all of my test games are vs Ultra Marines and we get it ballanced...
the results should be accurate.
Did you see my post on the other site?
I really would like to help this get going. Do to you think this is a more aproprate site to work on? It would be nice to try to work with everyone and try to work as a team but there is some difference in the way to go.
My personal opinion is look at the big picture first. What do we want the army to be? Then develop the units and point values. You have IMHO everything already. I may be dreaming but using youi "index" ?we could move through each chapter fairly quickly.
At present I have time to play test from one to three times a day five days a week. Does anyone have an easy, accurate way of recording a battle report? Not just a quick summary but something that can be analyzed? This would make the results available to anyone to check.
New Subject: How do you make a web page? Can you do it without buying anything? I happen to be a ?bit short of cash at the moment.
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Post subject: Epic Index Astartes!!! Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:32 am |
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Did you see my post on the other site?
I really would like to help this get going. Do to you think this is a more aproprate site to work on? It would be nice to try to work with everyone and try to work as a team but there is some difference in the way to go.
| Both sites are good. Your choice.
My personal opinion is look at the big picture first. What do we want the army to be? Then develop the units and point values. You have IMHO everything already. I may be dreaming but using youi "index" ?we could move through each chapter fairly quickly. |
It took a while to get it right - the work began around, IIRC, a year ago (or in fact more)
At present I have time to play test from one to three times a day five days a week. Does anyone have an easy, accurate way of recording a battle report? Not just a quick summary but something that can be analyzed? This would make the results available to anyone to check. Well, I think that you could just have a notepad and a ballpen and note down the more important events as they go. A very generic one, but will work well.
Or you could just have a table printed and note down the actions of each detachment during a turn and their results, I heard this works good too.
New Subject: How do you make a web page? Can you do it without buying anything? I happen to be a ?bit short of cash at the moment.
What do you need is a host (lots of free hosts around, do a little search) and time. You can code everything in the Notepad, and need only basic graphic programs.
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Post subject: Epic Index Astartes!!! Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:59 pm |
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Here is a host search engine. I have a list of other hosts too, but a tad long. I can PM it to you, if you ask.
Also, it is good to not host the bigger images locally, use photobucket instead - leave on the place only those pix that do not exceed 9 kb size. Photobucket allows direct linking, and has pretty huge bandwidth. For a quite decently sized site like mine, 1,5 MB bandwidth/hour (that's about 1 GB/month) in 15 megs webspace is enough. Photobucket allows like 300 MB image-only space and direct linking bandwidth of 3 GB/month. You'll also need some rudimentary graphics programs for working on the photos, maps etc. Combo of MS Paintbrush + MS Photo Editor is just what you need.
As for HTML coding, you can try getting some things like MS Front Page (comes free with Office package BTW). I can recommend for a beginning the CoffeCup HTML Express - not good for longer term, neither too effective, but it can hammer out the basics pretty fast.
If you really like, I can do the coding for you until you feel confident. 
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Post subject: Epic Index Astartes!!! Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:20 pm |
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| Quote (the_fifth_horseman @ 24 2004 Sep.,03:04) | You can take Grey Hunters to "soak up" the Blast Markers.
Rhinos/Razorbacks help as well.
You have an option of taking some tanks in the Great Company. What for?
Exactly, more ranged suppport...
Wolf Guard add to your firepower and are Leaders. Wolf Guard Battle Leaders and Wolf Priest are also helpful in keeping the detachment together long enough to do their job.
When you field some 1 Grey Hunters/3 Long Fangs/ 1 Battle Leader detachments, they are vulnerable, unless you present the enemy a more... interesting... target that will pick up their fire. Space Wolves are all about "Combined Arms" tactics.
Side note: HQ rule - change wording of the part that reads "(rounding up, and including the HQ units themselves in this quota)" to "(rounding up, and NOT including the HQ units themselves in this quota)" |
?Maybe I am doing something wrong here.
We are working on replacing the Grey Hunters ML with the Plasma Gun are we not?
In this case, they would not be able to soak up the blast markers, thus any BM's would supress the Long Fangs.
Tanks could be used but that seems a waste.
Can Dreadnoughts be transported? I can't seem to find anything. They would do the job but are rather slow.
I am keeping separate notes on each troop type. some notes and thoughts on Long fangs (I really need my books)...
1) Leave their stats as "Devastators". [unit cost 62.5]
2) Give them 3 missile launchers. [unit cost 75]
3) Give them 4 missile launchers. [unit cost 87.5][90/100/125]
4) Use them to up grade Grey Hunter stands to represent their presence. ie add the launcher to the Grey Hunter stands. [This would mean no actual Long Fang stands. (don't really like this but is one solution)]
5) Long Fangs are the most experienced and steady of troops.
They can not be supressed. Their dedication to support their less experienced brothers is unshakable.
6) for reasons above, make them "Fearless"
This is not meant to be a list of what we should do... only thoughts and notes to consider. Comments please. Also any other possibilities. [trying to "brain storm"] I am recording every idea I can find about them. It doesn't mater at this point if they make sense or not. If everything is noted it provides a record of what was considered.
I will try that combination of units. in a couple of games today.
New Subject: I seem to have a bit of mind block. I have an idea of what the Space Wolves company should look like. BUT, as detachments they are expensive and they will always be behind in "activations"
Does anyone have a list that they are using I can look at?
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) I will look around but will spend most time on play testing.
??(Forgetting the Dreadnoughts for the moment) otherwise they may get to fire once and then get suppressed. This is true no mater how large the overall unit. 
I hate dice!
?Does anyone see a patern here? ?
