Hi there

Thinking of dusting off and painting my little Baran Siege Masters Army.

Any tips on how to make a 1500 pts list work?

Just for reference I would love to include one unit of Siegfrieds and one unit of Ragnaroks just because I like the models. The rest is open for discussion.

Cheers
Drac

Hi!

Barans are a different beast than usual armies. They are actually masters of being sieged. With STR 1 you must position your units for taking blow first then retaliate.
In the latter the Baran is quite good, as almost all their base formations are able to shoot over half of the table.
Their firepower are low (until you start shooting with TK weapons), but so many shooting attack will easily break enemy formations due to blast markers, regardless of armour.
Their movement speed is their biggest weakness! Against a careful opponent you will probably end up with formations moving no more than 15 cm at TURN 3 and are away from objectives. Marching whatever you have, -even infantry- is a key to compensate.

Siegfrieds: Their speed and numbers makes them a durable scout and very important for grabbing objectives! Your priority with this formation is to keep them alive and slowly position them to reach multiple objectives at your opponent table. Fighting is optional.

Ragnaroks: Note that they are allowed to be placed in garrison. 60 cm battle cannon in overwatch from the very beginning is quite good. They also physically able to defend garrisoning infantry next to them, with armour and fire support. Make sure you save one commissar for this formation as fighting on the front and soaking up fire, is their main objective.

Infantry: They have 3 roles which depends on their upgrades. Without upgrade they are cheap activation boost and objective hunters who are marching from cover to cover. [A bunch of AP6+ is not a big loss anyway.]

Thudd gun is perfect for your HQ infantry staying behind frontline (perhaps taking the role of blitzguard) and still giving potent artillery fire. Regular infantry thudd guns may be placed forward to generate suppression at enemy ranks right in their deployment zone!

Rapier destroyer grants your infantry a decent anti armour firepower. Forward garrisioning is highly advised.

Additional infantry is not useful to take. If you want to build up your HQ -forced BTS formation- you better take guns, hellhound, snipers etc.

The rest is up to you to try what suit your playstyle the best.

CHeers

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Hello Mr. Commissar

That's very helpful.

Any thoughts on artillery units?

Also do you have any army lists lying around in the 1500-3000 range?

Cheers
Drac

Hi!

For artillery I think the same principle stands as with other Guard regiments. Use batteries instead of companies. For siege regiment they are quite cheap and somewhat resilient due to 6 units instead of usual 3.

So far my experience tells me that siege regiments are absolutely activation heavy. Tons of cheap yet useful formations slowly amortizating opposing forces. At 3000 point I suggest around 15-16 activation. Here is an example I begin with;


REGIMENTAL HQ [325]
Supreme Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns), Sniper unit

INFANTRY COMPANY [225]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, 2 Sniper units

INFANTRY COMPANY [250]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapier laser destroyer units)

INFANTRY COMPANY [250]
Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Rapier Platoon (3 Rapier laser destroyer units)

HEAVY TANK PLATOON [300]
6 Ragnarok Heavy Tanks

HEAVY TANK PLATOON [300]
6 Ragnarok Heavy Tanks

LIGHT TANK PLATOON [150]
6 Siegfried Light Tanks

LIGHT TANK PLATOON [150]
6 Siegfried Light Tanks

ARTILLERY BATTERY [150]
3 Götterdämmerung Howitzers, 3 Bruenhilde

ARTILLERY BATTERY [150]
3 Götterdämmerung Howitzers, 3 Bruenhilde

FLAK BATTERY [100]
3 Blitzen AA Guns, Gun Emplacements

FLAK BATTERY [100]
3 Blitzen AA Guns, Gun Emplacements

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

MARAUDER BOMBERS [250]
2 Marauders

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts


The HQ is your forced and only BTS formation can remain behind covered and providing light artillery fire. Both heavy tanks may garrison and begin in overwatch. Rapier infantry should forward garrison next to the heavy tanks.

The rest is up to you for reinforcements and reaction to enemy army composition and strategy.

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There are a couple of battle reports (though usually 3k and up) on my blog at epicaddiction.wordpress.com

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You can see Nick from our club's very successful epic uk siege master list here. Basic principles as above. High activation count is a must scout tanks, rough riders etc are crucial for grabbing objectives. http://www.taccmd.tacticalwargames.net/viewtopic.php?t=29751

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Very nice and very inspirational guys thanks!