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EA weapon stats added 19/12/04 CC stats added 20/12/04
Ok, I finally got my codexes from home. They are not the new ones that just came out but to compare different units in EA they should be close. This is to help in the evaluation of units when converting to EA or adjusting for new "Chapters".
I was very supprised at the number of people arguing about squad weapons that didn't seem to know what they were talking about. I have not put point cost in because to be frank, weapons cost are not consistant even in the same codex. I will try to add other information as time permits. Old time Epic players (including me) please note the differences in "Space Wolf" organization. This is meant to be a reference not a bible. I hope it is useful.
Tactical[5-10] ? ? [bolters]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>1 Hvy Bltr, msl lnchr, lascannon:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>1 flamer, ?meltagun or plasma gun: ?
Grey Hunters [6-10][bolt pistol & CC wpn or Bolter & CC wpn]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>2 PwrWpn or powerfist:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>2 plasma pistols:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>1 Flamer, ?meltagun or plasma gun: ?
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Devastator [5-10] ?[bolters] ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>4 Hvy bltr, msl lnchr, lascannon, multi-melta or plasma cannon:
? ? ? ? [Sergeant: bolter or bolt pistol & CC wpn]
Long Fangs [3-5]* ?[bolters] ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>4 Hvy bltr, msl lnchr, lascannon, multi-melta or plasma cannon:
? ? ? ? [Pack Leader: Blt Pstl & (CC Wpn, PwWpn or plasma pstl) or bltr &CC wpn
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?or flamer,meltagun or plasma gun]
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Assault [5-10] ? ? [bolt pistol, CC wpn & frag grenades: jump packs]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>2 plasma pistols
Blood Claws[8-15] ?[bolt pistol, CC wpn & grenades]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>1 in 5 ?PwrWpn or powerfist: and plasma pistol:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>1 ? ? ? Flamer, melta gun or plasma gun:
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Death Company ? ? ?[bolter or bolt pistol & CC wpn and grenades]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Rhinos? or ?jump packs? ?
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Scout [5-10] ? ? ? [bolt pistol & CC wpn or bolter or shotgun or sniper rifle]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>1 Hvy Bltr, autocannon or msl lnchr: ?
Wolf Scout [4-6] ? [bolt pistol & CC wpn or bolter or shotgun]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>2 sniper rifle or plasma pistol:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>2 Power weapons:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>1 flamer, melta gun or plasma gun:
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Bike [3-5] ? ? ? ? ? ?[twin-linked bolters][bolters]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>2 flamers, meltaguns or plasma guns: ?
Blood Claws Bike [3-8][twin-linked bolters][bolt pistol or CC Wpn]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>2 PwrWpn, power fist or plasma pistol
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?>1 flamer, meltagun or plasma gun ?
Scout Bike ? [3-5] ? ?[twin-linked bolters][bolt pistol, bolter or shotgun] [?Walker?] ?
Attack Bike ?[1-3] ? ?[twin-linked bolters & Hvy bolter or multi-melta][bolt pistol]
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Dreadnought
? ? ? ? ?left arm - ?[CC wpn w/storm bolter]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?replace strm bltr with Hvy Flamer
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?replace CCwpn with missile launcher
? ? ? ? ?right arm - assault cannon, twin-linked Hvy bolter, twin-linked autocannon, multi-melta,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?plasma cannon or twin-linked lascannon
Venerable Dreadnought
? ? ? ? ? left arm - [CC wpn w/storm bolter]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?replace strm bltr with Hvy Flamer:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?replace CCwpn with missile launcher
? ? ? ? ?right arm - assault cannon, twin-linked Hvy bolter, twin-linked autocannon, multi-melta,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?plasma cannon or twin-linked lascannon
Furioso Dreadnought
? ? ? ? ?left arm ?- [CC wpn w/storm bolter]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?replace strm bltr with Hvy Flamer
? ? ? ? ?right arm - [CC wpn w/meltagun]
* note: (1) normal full strength "Long Fang" squad is 5 men or one unit/stand in "Epic".
? ? ? ?(2) normal full strength "Devastator" squad is 10 men or two units/stands in "Epic".
? ? ? ?(3) normal full strength "Blood Claw squad is 15 men or three units/stands in "Epic".
? ? ? ?(4) "Wolf Guard" are bodyguards for "command units" and added to Units as "Wolf Guard Battle Leaders". They are not used in Detachments (including "Terminators").
Here are some other stats from EA units. Only have SM, IG, Ork, Eldar, BL and Squat weapons.
I will add others as time permits.
Small Arms weapons:
FF
6+ ?Laspistol; Shoota;
5+ ?Bolt Pistol; Shotgun; Ripper Gun; Shuriken Pistol; Nobz Shootas;
4+ ?Bolter; Lasgun; Hellgun; Shuriken Catapult; Las Blaster; Death Spinner;
3+ ?Storm Bolter; Sonic Blaster; Combi-Bolter;
15cm Range Heavy Weapons:
AP5+/AT5+ Plasma Gun;
AP4+ ? ? ? ? ? Heavy Flamer; Skorcha; (Ignore cover & FF+1Attack)
MW5+ ? ? ? ? ?Multi-Melta; Fusion Gun; Wraith Cannon-2Attacks; (FFMW)
30cm Range Heavy Weapons:
AP6+/AT6+ ? ? ? ? ?Big Shoota;
AP5+ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Heavy Bolter; Heavy Stubber; Sniper Rifle;
AP5+/AT6+ ? ? ? ? ?Multilaser;
AP5+/AT5+ ? ? ? ? ?Assault Cannon; Twin-Big Shoota; Scatter Laser; Kombat A'mmer-also CCweapon;
AP5+/AT5+/AA6+ ? ? Flak Gun-2 Attacks;
AP4+ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Twin-Heavy Bolter;
AP4+/AT6+ ? ? ? ? ?Reaper Autocannon;
AP4+/AT5+ ? ? ? ? ?Blast Master;
AP4+/AT4+ ? ? ? ? ?Twin-Assault Cannon; Plasma Cannon-slow fire;
AP3+ ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? Inferno Cannon- Ignore cover;
AP3+/AT4+ ? ? ? ? ?Demolisher- Ignore cover;
MW5+ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? D-Cannon; Wailing Doom-also MWCC;
MW4+ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Gaze of Mork- TK;
45cm Range Heavy Weapons:
AP6+/At4+ ? ? ? ? ?Tarantula;
AP6+/AT5+/AA5+ ? ? Thunderfire- 2 Attacks
AP5+ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Reaper Missile Launcher- 2 Attacks;
AP5+/AT6+ ? ? ? ? ?Missile Launcher; Autocannon; Heavy Weapon;
AP5+/AT5+/AA5+ ? ? Body Weapons- 3 AttACKS;
AP4+/AT6+ ? ? ? ? ?Thudd Gun;
AP4+/AT5+ ? ? ? ? ?Twin-Autocannon;
AP4+/AT5+/AA5+ ? ? Hydra;
AP3+/AT5+ ? ? ? ? ?Twin-Typhoon Missile;
AT5+ ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? Lascannon;
AT4+ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? Twin-Lascannon;
MW5+/AA5+ ? ? ? ? ?Fist of Gork;
1BP ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Whirlwind-Indirect Fire; Squig Katapult-Disrupt;
2BP ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Siege Mortar- Indirect Fire, Ignore cover, Slow fire;
60cm Range Heavy Weapons
AT4+/AA4+ ? ? ? ? ?Hunter-Killer
2BP MW ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Soopa Gun
3BP MW ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Twin-Soopa Gun;
75cm Range Heavy Weapons:
AP4+/AT4+ ? ? ? ? ?Battle Cannon; Defiler Cannon- or 1BP Indirect Fire;
AP4+/AT2+ ? ? ? ? ?Vanquisher Cannon;
90cm Range Heavy Weapons:
MW2+ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Volcano Cannon-TK(D3)
120cm Range Heavy Weapons:
AP4+/AT4+ 0r 1BP ? Earth Shaker Cannon;
150cm Range Heavy Weapons:
2BP ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ?Rocket Launcher-Disrupt, Slow Fire;
Close Combat Weapons: EA CC values and weapons:
[weapons combinations are entered as they "may"
or "may not" effect the CC value]
cc
6+ ? ? ? Sniper Rifle; Shuriken Catapult; Scatter Laser;
? ? ? ? Grotz Shootas;Reaper Missile Launchers:
5+ ? ? ? Lasgun; Death Spinner; Lasblaster; Fusion Guns; Hellgun & Plasgun;
? ? ? ? Dier Avengers Shuriken Catapult; 2 Heavy Weapons; 2 Missile Launchers:
4+ ? ? ? Bolter; Bolt Pistol & Shotgun; Chain Sword & Laspistol; Choppers;
? ? ? ? Ogryn Close Combat Weapon; Sonic Blaster; Power Lance; Wraith Cannon;
? ? ? ? Mandiblaster & Shuriken Pistol(+1A):
4+MW+1A ?Power Weapon; Wichblade & Shuriken Pistol:
3+ ? ? ? Chain Sword & Bolt Pistol; Chain Sword & Bolter; Big Choppa;
? ? ? ? Plaque Knives & Bolter; Bansheemask & Shuriken Pistol(1st Strike):
? ? ? ? Body Weapons;
3+MW+1A ?Power Weapon & Combi-Bolter; Power Axe:
3+MW+2A TK Daemeon Weapons:
2+ ? ? ? Chain Axe & Polt Pistol:
2+MW+1A ?Wailing doom:
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?My codexes are "new" but may not be the latest. It's a pain but if anyone has time to check for differences and either e-mail or post here, and I will update the info. I didn't really intend for this to be a discussion thread but more of an information one. Would welcome any updates or stats and coments about usefulness but please keep the focus on stats not ..."I thinks". I would like to do the same for the other codexes but it may be a while before I can get any. Anyone that has access to them and could e=mail them to me (even copies) would be nice (just the Infantry and weapons data and any "special traits they may have".) Thanks in advance for any help.