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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:40 pm 
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Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 03 2004 Feb.,18:19)

Like Carl, I dont want to say too much, but I can add that the new Super Heavies are being sculpted by FW's master whittler - Will Hayes. Martin Footit is doing the Revenant & I'm not sure on the Phantom/warlock yet.

I know Mr Hayes has some fans on the boards for his previous work, and I personally think it can only be a good thing to have him onboard for E:A models.

Whilst I havent seen the miniatures yet (I believe the first masters were due last week) the concept sketches I have seen look great.

I'm booked for painting the Studio pieces next month - I'll try my best to get permission to post painted previews, but I cant promise anything & suspect Fanatic will want to get the first showings on their site.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:38 pm 
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Hi!

I'm not too worries about thier super-heavy designs or vehicles. I dont think I ever saw a GW epic vehicle I didn't like.

Titans are another matter. I like the old gothic look. The newer BT-like warlord example I dont like. I didn't care much for that new warhound either (although the paint job is a great).

If the new phantom looks sleek like the orginal one, I'll like it.  :)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:02 pm 
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Like Carl, I dont want to say too much, but I can add that the new Super Heavies are being sculpted by FW's master whittler - Will Hayes. Martin Footit is doing the Revenant & I'm not sure on the Phantom/warlock yet.

I know Mr Hayes has some fans on the boards for his previous work, and I personally think it can only be a good thing to have him onboard for E:A models.


Mmmm.. I definitely agree, if what we get is remotely as good as the stunning stuff he produces for FW -Epic and 40k scale- I'll be very happy indeed!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:18 pm 
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New Eldar S/Heavies, and Titans ... I'm in !!!   Pics of greens would Be Nice ... "wink, wink, nod, nod" ...  :;):

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:50 am 
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Hi!

I'd rather see pics of the "done deal". First impressions are important, so lets see the model in its best "light".

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:42 pm 
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Well, been to B&Q this morning and bought an 8"x4" bit of 18mm MDF for ?11. Had it chopped in half so I've got two 4"x4"s, in hindsight I should've had the second one chopped in half again since 8"x4" is entirely impractical for the room but extending it to 6"x4" would be reasonable. Might take the wood back next time we go over there to get a straight cut on the second piece (it's safely residing in the garage for now.)

Anyway, I'm at a loss at what to do now. I've been playing for about eight years and never had a board of my own - so I'm pretty damn excited and eager to get on.. But equally I don't want to cack it up.

The board'll mainly be for my Epic - so I'll want to be texturing it similarly to the bases of my army - black->bestial brown->chestnut ink->drybrush snakebite leather->patches of flock/grass. Come to think of it the extra 2"x4"s would make perfect 'sea and shore' and 'city' additions.

Any tips would be appreciated and photos of your own boards all set up (so the whole thing can be seen) would be lovely too.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:55 pm 
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I tried to keep things simple and have two sturdy 4x6 foot "Banquet" tables side by side, with GEO-Hex mat, hills etc ...     :;):

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:09 pm 
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Pictures of my terrain

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http://www.ifelix.co.uk/phoepic2-11.html

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http://www.ifelix.co.uk/phoepic_b07_a.html (flat)
http://www.ifelix.co.uk/phoepic_b08_a.html (with hills)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:50 pm 
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I have a few pics of my terrain pieces in my Briefcase here

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:08 pm 
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G'day Sam,

Welcome to the final triumvurate of wargaming (next to playing and painting figures) - terrain construction!

You have chosen to go the easiest and most versatile of methods, which I eventually came back to as well.  Its also the most durable.  I've tried sand tables, modular sculpting and came back to boards and drop cloths in the end too.

You need to decide what your priority is- looks or playability/longevity.  I think your plan to use a base set of boards, with smaller and limited ones on top will be best for stiagrage while still looking good too.  You can also slide in smaller 2 x 4 sets with rivers and the like (beaches as you say) and still have some nice sunk in effects too.

Home made Polystyrene hills can look very effective as well- but you will need to seal them.  I use a product called "Speedclear" (sold in Oz) which is like a kind of satin estapol.  For both the hills and boards, I did
a layer of poster paint (lots of messy, melding different colours)
a layer of speedclear
scattered the flock (again different colours etc)
another layer of speedclear.

The flock will absorb lots of the estapol and it will be a bit pricey for that reason.  However, the result is so tough that I have not been able to accidentally damage the table other than with a file or sandpaper, and coffee/tea/beer runs straight off and does not damage

Hope that helps!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:23 am 
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Hi!

I use two types. One the easy "green felt" fabric available from any shop that sells cloth. Very nice and simple, just drap any table.

The second was the warzone battle boards. I managed to buy the large "campaign" board (8 x 6) that they dont make any more. IT suitably large for the games I favor.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:02 pm 
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I have a sectional board covered with green felt that I'm currently using - a 4x4 and two 2x4 sections. ?I have a system of interlocking 1x2 boards that allows me to set up on a smaller table and not have the boards fall off. ?Basically, the 1x2s are parallel and the next board's 1x2 are just a bit narrower so they slide inside.

Mmmm... dunno if that makes sense.

Anyway, it's light, durable and transportable. ?I used spray adhesive to hold the felt in place and keep it from sliding and bunching, then stapled the edges.

Current plan is to strip off the 1x2s and felt and resurface with a mix of paint, sand, and flock. ?One side will be grassland, the other ash waste (suitable for urban terrain, too).

Grassland: ?layer of floor-grade paint, sprinkle sand on it while wet, second layer of paint, various green spray paint over that, with flock sprinkled on while wet, layer of matte varnish

Ash waste: ?layer of floor-grade paint, sprinkle sand on it while wet, spray with "speckle paint", matte varnish

Of course, all this junk is sitting in my garage at the moment, awaiting a day decent enough to open the doors for ventilation.

BTW, I was thinking about a quick way to highlight the texture. ?Do you guys think that a fairly hard roller would work? ?I was thinking a rigid surface on the roller, roll the paint out thin on a flat surface like a you would do for an ink stamp or fingerprinting or woodblock print, then roll the roller softly across the board to leave dolor on the bits that srick up.

Feasible? ?Opinions?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:06 pm 
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Hi, this may be out of place but i noticed the 1st/2nd ed SM forums hadn't had traffic in over a month so I posted here.  I have been playing epic since 1st edition and am getting into the Epic Armageddon rules, they seem solid - however I would like to get my hands on the old 1st ed rules (mmmm nostalgia) if anyone has a pdf or knows where I can get ahold of them please let me know!!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:29 pm 
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Hi and welcome.

The file is approx 1,8 mb. If you have enough storage in you E-mail inbox it shouldn't be a problem. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:21 pm 
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sure do

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