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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets  Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:50 pm |
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Called in an order to G/W US for Storm, Tas and I today. The Troll said today was the last day for Archive Epic ... I'm not optimisitic about the E:A release in the US. Besides the prices going up, you have to buy everything in sets, instead of the pieces you need/want. I'll be selling a lot of extras here and elsewhere. And it does not appear whether we will ever see EPIC sold in bitz again. But I could be wrong ... I hope so ... |
Nice one L4, I got your mail btw...
-You never know, they may start selling by bits eventually- BFG is available in the US in parts, whilst in the Uk, like the new EpicA release, it is not.... grrr.. 
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:08 pm |
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:55 am |
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Hi!
Darn, I kinda hoped it wasn't true.
I hope the blackout period is short.
Bring back the archive!
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:26 am |
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Hi guys, new to the board, glad i found it really! I am (was) an old epic vet from the early days of the plastic "Beetle" warlord titan when it was new! lol but how gutted am I after amassing the following :
2 Imperator titans
12 Plastic warlords
16 Warhounds
9 Reavers
3 Artillery companies
2 of each super heavy tank company
etc etc etc etc etc etc absolutley flippin hundreds of thousands of points over 5 years of fanatical collecting...... i sold the lot, and embraced 3rd edition 40k....... How the dumb ass i feel now after looking at the Armageddon prices!
The prices reflect (in general) the average GW price climbs (cue the misty eyed looks at two plastic landraiders for ?12, a Wraithlord for ?6 etc etc) but im still not impressed! I certainly dont think that much of the new models either and will probably buy the forge world models (which incidently work out cheaper by the way.........) as i certainly cant justify paying double the cost of a Reaver titan to what i used to pay for them! Especially when its an old model re-boxed which didnt look too hot anyways!
I had decided to put my 40K stuff aside after nearly 10 successuful career years at no less then 4 grand tournaments (including qualifying for two finals!) and about a dozen campaign weekends (Armaggeddon, Eye of Terror, Total War, All out war etc etc) and pick Epic up again. I ignored the last system becuase........... well basically i thought it was pants!
Dilema I am now faced with is will the high prices force Epic:Armaggeddon into Man'O'War obscurity? Man'O'War was (still is) an immensley playable game and great fun! Problem was that a lack of any real support from GW and a pricing structure that was a little heavy for what you where getting for your money ment it only lasted a few years before being recalled and replaced with yet more stuff for 40k and Warhammer.
On the other hand it could go the other way...... Under the fanatic banner, Necromunda, Inquisitor, Mordheim etc are still going strong so maybe epic could be on the eve of a big come back? maybe........
Ive played some of the new rules (picking the main book up this weekend) and i dont mind it too much. Still getting the hang of working out the initiative order and blast markers but generally it seems to be quite good fun and ive been looking for an excuse to rebuild my tank companies for years!
I'll finish rambling with a few thoughts of my own on the price of the models....
" If i like the system and it works for me then I will buy the models with little thought to the cost....Why? Because ?20 investment in a tank company gets me countless future hours of fun gaming with my mates, or about an hour in the pub......."
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:50 am |
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Welcome to the boards!
Very true especially the last bit, Pity about the sold army, lucky I kept my epic even when I was going through my 'e-baying' stage. I'm pretty enthusiastic about the new version personally, being very fond of the ruleset and the way the armies are playtested 'by the people for the people'.
All I can say is it will be as sucessful as you and we can make it really, try the system for a bit and if you come to like it introduce your gaming friends to it, run demo games, raise interest, etc...
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:06 am |
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Welcome Turbodave,
Well I've just played 4 games of EA this week, which is some kind of record... small games with the same forces and rather than getting bored we just keep seeing possibilites... this is a great system... I just wish I could buy the rulebook here rather than having to put up with these annoying print-outs.
I play 40k occasionally also, and IMO epic is a much better system, with far more scope for different strategies and tactics with each army.
In my local area I have seen old epic players come back into the fold with EA... and new players starting to come on board, including historical gamers. Most of the people are starting with second hand stuff, as the price of the new figures with postage, to New Zealand from the UK is a killer.
I'm already planning the expansion to take my orks to a solid 15,000 points plus options (thats 3 max sized tourney armies). I will wait until the end of the year when more models are released and do an order with other people tho.
Personally I think that in spite of the prices of the new stuff, this system will continue to grow and develop. Like you say, compare it to a night out, or computer gaming, and it is not that terrible. The money I spent on alcohol and two restaurant meals last week would could have been a new army for EA!! 
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:38 am |
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Epic is the answer ! 40K is a kids game ... 
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:49 am |
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| Quote (Legion 4 @ 06 2004 Feb.,04:38) | | Epic is the answer ! 40K is a kids game ... |
What was it that I heard the other day? Something about men never growing up... 
That said, E:A and 40k are on very different levels and E:A is definitely more tactical.
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:02 am |
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:17 pm |
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With mordheim you can have a complete army for ?20..... combined with great rules - no wonder it is popular!
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:12 pm |
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| Quote (Turbodave @ 06 2004 Feb.,00:26) | |
Hey turbodave, welcome. Always nice to meet another Man O' War fan! I have a section for Man O' War on my site you might be interested in:
http://www.knowltonsworld.com
Look under games. If you have anything you want to add just email it to me and I will post it.
Anyway, I think Epic A will be more successful than I thought. I thought the release schedule was stupid, but now I am realizing making everyone wait will just extend the life of the game. I certainly would wait a few years for new fleets or ships for Man O' War today! 
BTW, have you been paying attention to the auctions for Man O' War goods on ebay since GW stopped selling their archive Man O' War minis? Luckily, I just got the entire Elf fleet I was looking for (which was the last fleet I didn't have), but man, a 1000 point fleet can cost you $90-110! Sometimes without the masts and sails!  _________________ Please check out my website: http://www.system17.com
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:26 pm |
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:42 pm |
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Post subject: More easy printing Army and Reference Sheets Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:13 pm |
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Hi!
Well, since its an epic board, we'll tell ya epic is better than 40k any day of the week!
The price issue is something only you can answer. If its expensive to you or not will determine if you can acquire it. The perception of "value" is a personal thing. Its your call.
As for its long range support, well, as you'll learn soon enough, I am the boards "pessimist" as far as predictions. I think the price, inferior marketing and release schedule measured in years will severely curtail the games appeal and staying power. Every game fosters "enthusiasm" when its new, thats easy. The real question is how many stores will be a carrying it and supporting it a year from now. There is no crystal ball to tell the future or to make your desicion easier. Investing in any game is a risk, no denying that, but if you like epic and have a group to play with, does it really matter all that much what will happen later on? You can have a lot of fun meanwhile and I think that has "value". Gaming is about having fun now, if you worry a lot about future trends then perhaps the stock market is a better "game" for you....
So take the dive and enjoy epic. Let the future worry about it self.
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? Ask any female, if you can get her to stop bitching about how immature men are, long enough to ask her. 
At 47 years old, I often wonder why I'm still "playing with toy soldiers", as my gaming buddy's she-devil wife calls it. ?
... ah ... forget it !!! ? 
? ?Just play Epic ...
The good thing about being old is you don't have to worry about dieing young !