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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History!  Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:04 pm |
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Hi
I managed to pick up the new SM Battle Company box set at the weekend and started assembling them yesterday. It struck me that the sprue was suspicously like half of the old SM Infantry sprue.
You got the marines with bolters, missile launchers and jump packs but that was it. You did n't get the sergeants, scouts, termies, bikes or command figures.
Does anyone know if something happened to the old SM Infantry sprue mould? Or was this just an excuse to overcharge us and force us to buy the new metal bikes/scouts/termies etc....
Cheers
James
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:21 pm |
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Trashed, to be replaced by metal stands.
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:51 pm |
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| Quote (wargame_insomniac @ 02 2004 Feb.,20:04) | | Does anyone know if something happened to the old SM Infantry sprue mould? Or was this just an excuse to overcharge us and force us to buy the new metal bikes/scouts/termies etc.... |
The way I understand it:
GW have changed the way they cast their plastics & are using machines upgraded since the 1997 moulds for E40K were designed.
In order to cast the older moulds would have meant considerable adjustment of the casting machine every time any of the epic sprues were needed. This wasnt possible under current production cycles so new moulds had to be made which do fit the current machines & also the production process in the plastics department.
New moulds were too expensive to make from scratch so they re-tooled the components of the old moulds to fit new Boss'. In the case of the SMs (and possibly others, I'm going on a conversation between myself & jervis here, I havent seenthe new inf castings yet), this did indeed result in something which was basically one half of the original._________________ Cheers, Paul "TuffSkull" T. http://hobbybrush.com - My New Website, with thousands of painted Mini Pics :) http://hobbybrush.blogspot.com - My Hobby Blog TuffSkull's notepad- My Old Blog on Wargames Wiki.
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:14 pm |
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Hi!
Hi
I managed to pick up the new SM Battle Company box set at the weekend and started assembling them yesterday. It struck me that the sprue was suspicously like half of the old SM Infantry sprue.
You got the marines with bolters, missile launchers and jump packs but that was it. You did n't get the sergeants, scouts, termies, bikes or command figures.
Does anyone know if something happened to the old SM Infantry sprue mould? Or was this just an excuse to overcharge us and force us to buy the new metal bikes/scouts/termies etc....
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This is GW's version of a "bakers dozen", except that they keep the "extras"..... 
Primarch
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wargame_insomniac
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:45 am |
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Thanks- it is disappointing- I did n't even have any sergeants to use in tactical squads...
I need to get my small amount of old Epic stuff out of storage.
Cheers
James
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GlynG
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:53 pm |
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I think it would have been better if they'd have put Space Marine Sergeants and Imperial Guard Officers on the new sprues, but we'll just have to make do sadly. I for one intend to track down second hand old ones on e-bay as I want those bits but thats annoying and hassle as otherwise I could have just bought the new boxed sets straight from GW and got them cheaper...
Glyn
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:59 pm |
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Where do you live G ? And how many SM Sergeants do you need ?
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GlynG
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:15 pm |
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Thanks for the offer Legion, I live in Hull, Uk. I've got enough Space Marine Sergeants kicking round to keep me happy for the moment, was more just commenting in general that I thought they should be in the box. I might possibly be interested in aquiring some Imperial Guard Officers, Primaris Psykers and Com-Link guys though (is there anything else on the old sprues that gotted missed off on the new ones, not totally sure as never bought any epic40k ones), do you have any of those you don't want?...
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:25 pm |
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The rough riders, heavy weapons and plastic catachans were missed off, although the hws and rough riders have been redone in metal for EpicA...
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Legion 4
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:29 pm |
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Sorry G ... but with 6 IG Rgts (including SM1, SM2 & E40K sprues) , I've used all those guys. I just have a number of SM SGTs & (caped) Cdrs left, and I have 6 SM Rgts & 5 Traitor Bns, so I still used a bunch of SM Leaders ! 
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GlynG
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:19 am |
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No worries I'll just pick some up from e-bay at some point. Want to work on my Space Marine army first anyway...
Glyn
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primarch
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:47 am |
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Hi!
Did the elimination of the archive also hinder getting sprues?
I'd ask anyway, you never know....
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Legion 4
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Post subject: A Sad Moment in Epic History! Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:58 am |
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The Troll said all Epic, so I took it to mean everything ...
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