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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:58 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:26 pm 
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That all sounds great, three Epic scale games! ?

But before we start buying rounds of drinks to celebrate... let's wait and see how E-A does. I wouldn't be surprised to see the release date of both the rules and models pushed back, based on recent information.

Just a little "reality" to to keep everything in perspective... :blues:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:40 pm 
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Mm.. interesting stuff.. a few years before we see these plans coming into fruition however as has been said.... if ever.. :L

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Mm.. interesting stuff.. a few years before we see these plans coming into fruition however as has been said.... if ever..


Well, enthusiasm is all well and good, but if we all go to that quiet place in each of us and really be honest, we all know that Stormseer's statement above IS what will transpire.

All I'm curious about is how much WILL come out before the bottom falls out.

If anyone doubts it I'll take bets and odds.  }:)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:45 am 
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Which opens up a much larger issue:-

Why does epic, or most other spin offs, never seem to break the mold and become on the same "level" as WHFB or W40k?

Lack of backing or something else?


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Hi!

I can't speak of most "fanatic" games, but in the case of epic it is most definitely a lack of "backing". We must remember that once upon a time epic WAS a core game. Albeit a "junior" to 40k and warhammer, but a core game with full support in WD and game releases on a routine basis.

Epic can and once did sell and had reached a good degree of popularity, it all came crashing down after the release of epic40k, which GW did not really support only in the lamest of terms. The once core game whithered on the vine because of this.

It takes money to make money. It's a maxim most people in business understand, but GW is not willing to commit the resources that epic needs to be a success.

Epic is just a "fringe" game because GW, not the fans have made it so.

Unfortunately, yet again, we see the tell tail signs of lack of genuine support and "backing".

It should be no surprise when this new edition also meets the same fate.

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Quote (netepic @ 02 2003 Sep.,23:10)
Blimey! Didn't expect this much interest! :cool: ?

The main rules can be downloaded from this URL:

http://www.netepic.org/EOTS/EOTS.PDF.


I have a half written background for a campaign hidden deep in my hard drive- if you like we could resurrect it and use it as background for this campaign if it gets up.  Should save you some work at least...

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The Eye opens... NOW!

All nine Traitor Legions have emerged and began the slaughter of Emperor's servants...
But fear not, for the might of the Astartes has also been boosted by presence of the Blood Angels and the Blood Angels variant list, the Army of Death, comprising in 100% of Death Company.

TFH. Quality over quantity.

All the previously existing army lists have been enchanced, and a Codex Astartes army list Amendments section added. It is there mostly to show how did I change the Codex Astartes list to really reflect the values of a Space Marine army, but also to provide important enchancements over the original, like the inclusion of the Techmarines.

The Sons of Russ will have to wait a while... I don't have Space Wolf Codex, and won't have it for some time. Sorry, puppies. Anyway, Dark Angels never liked the Space Wolves and never will.

The file is for D/L at groups.yahoo.com/group/epica/files

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:57 pm 
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I took a look at your lists, they are very good work. I most like the Death Company, but think on Epic:A Scale could do with some single Preadators as upgrades, for a little bit of help.

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The DC are the going straight into Close Combat.
There aint any Death co Predators, never ever.

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DC with Preds? Leave 'em as beserkers ;), more fluffy.

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Thanks TFH- I am slowly (oh so slowly) developing my own minor mods for a Flesh Tearers force and have found your lists to be quite thought provoking.

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I would like to see that Tas, as I was planning a Flesh Tearers force, as they onlt number 4 companies. It would be a nice little army, compared with some of the massive ones around here!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:49 pm 
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Ok, my friend and I plan on doing some demo games at the local GW shop and gaming stores, just to get some interest going.  He's going to play his IG, and I'll be playing my Space Marines.

IG are great for epic demos, but anyone getting the poo kicked out of them is pretty neat too.  He's doing a mostly-mechanized force, so it shouldn't be *that* hard to beat him.  The problem is that his mechanization is fairly well set up.  Here's what he's got:
-6 baneblades
-3 shadowswords
-6 Deathstrikes
-12 hellhounds
-6 thunderbolts
-13 basilisks
-2 bombards
-9 manticores
-9 hydras
-10 leman russ tanks

He has no titans, but that's enough artillery and SHT to make me want to kill myself.

We'll be playing 2700 point games, and I'd like some help with my space marines.  Should I go all drop pods?  Air assault?  Teleport?  Regular mobile marines?  His list's glaring weakness is CC, I'm just not sure how to capitalize that.  

I have all SM formations available to me, the only real limits being that I have 2 terminator formations and 1 scout formation.  I also have a squad of thunderbolts and a squad of marauders, but judging by his unit choice, I won't be taking any aircraft.

Here are the lists I've been thinking about so far:
List 1:  All ground forces
-Tactical Detachment (3 Rhinos, Hunter) - 375 points
-Tactical Detachment (6 TLC Razorbacks, Hunter) - 525 points
-Tactical Detachment (3 Rhinos) - 300 points
-Terminator Detachment (Captain) - 375 points
-Terminator Detachment - 325 points
-Devastator Detachment (2 Land Raiders) - 450 points
-Scout Detachment (2 Rhinos) - 150 points
-Land Speeder Detachment - 200 points
8 Formations, 55 units

List 2:  Titans included!
-Warlord Titan - 850 points
-Tactical Detachment (4 TLC Razorbacks, 1 Rhino, Supreme Commander) - 500 points
-Tactical Detachment (Hunter) - 375 points
-Terminator Detachment (Chaplain) - 375 points
-Scout Detachment (2 Rhinos) - 150 points
-Bike Detachment (Captain) - 250 points
-Bike Detachment - 200 points
7 formations, 42 units

List 3:  Death from above
-Thunderbolt Squadron - 150 points
-Marauder Squadron - 300 points
-Tactical Detachment (4 TLC Razorbacks, 1 Rhino, Hunter, Captain) - 525 points
-Tactical Detachment (3 Rhinos) - 300 points
-Tactical Detachment (3 Rhinos) - 300 points
-Terminator Detachment - 325 points
-Bike Detachment (Captain) - 250 points
-Bike Detachment - 200 points
-Assault Detachment - 175 points
-Assault Detachment - 175 points
10 formations, 56 units


We won't be able to see eachother's lists before the games, so I want something that will be versatile and will be able to handle whatever army his models can put together (which is ALL TANKS!)  I want to fit in some Annihilators, but I'm not sure where.

Any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:26 am 
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He's not taking any IG infantry? ?I know they suck, but they do protect your tanks and there are alot of them. ?Anyhow, assuming that he doesnt, take list no. 3 and kick the cr@p outta him from the air. ?That is what I'd do. ?Especially if he spreads his detachments a little too much, then you will smack him down hard.

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