Quick few Questions about this topic.

After reading through the rules i couldnt find any thing that clears this up for me, unless im   just old and blind.

under the cover saves section it says in cover gives you the -1 to be hit mod and the appropriate terrain save, but after reading in the CC / FF sections i couldnt find anything that says you dont get it in this situations, So does the -1 to hit apply to combat aswell as FF if your in cover ?  and do you also get the cover save in CC and  FF?
For some odd reason we have only been playing it Vs Shooting.

Thanks in advance

Tim NZ

Cover modifiers apply to NEITHER side in assaults.

Cover saves only apply to the defender in assaults.

The latter has caused some fun reactions when I countercharged some of FrogBear's in cover units, and got the Cover Save increase, whereas he didn't.

Morgan Vening

thanks for clearing that up


Cheers

Tim NZ

Morgan is correct that the 'to hit' cover save only applies to shooting (check 1.8.2). However, infantry units in cover that are the defenders in an assault may use the cover save if that is better than their own (check 1.8.3 and 1.12.5)

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wait a second, if you are the defender and countercharge you still get the cover save? i don't have the rule book handy but i thought it said something (maybe in the QA) about if you move (countercharge) you don't get any bonus

As the defender you still get the cover save if you remain in cover at the end of your counter-charge. The attacker never gets the cover save, and the defender also loses it if they move out of cover to meet the attacker in the open.

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Losing the cover save actually has nothing to do with movement, it's lost from "taking a charge action"; the active formation is the only one taking an action, so they're the only one to lose their cover save, even if they charge 0cm.

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