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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:52 pm 
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Thanks Neal,

That info is welcome indeed if it comes off.  One hopes it is at least in indication that GW/Fanatic now realise the problems with their current policy regarding the Oceanic region and sales.

Marconz- I think this policy will be for all of Oceania with NZ supplies trickling though GW Oz as the area co-ordinator (as they do now for core game supplies)

Of course, I shall continue to be skeptical about this until I see a revised official policy, but if it continues to fail me...well I'll be emailing you with some more orders L4!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:38 pm 
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And after over 12 years of "Epicing", since SM1, I can say with confidence that G/W is as fickle as a school girl on prom night.  


Hmmm.... ok, use my usual solution and lets all get GW drunk, then we are guarrented to get the 'goods'.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:10 am 
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Hi!

So no epic in GW stores until summer 2004 eh? What does that mean for the release schedule afterwards?

I'll say one thing for GW, they are always reliably predictable.

Hopefuly the Aussies will get cheaper shipping, although since its GW after all, it may only be a "penny or two"..... :L

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:32 pm 
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So no epic in GW stores until summer 2004 eh? What does that mean for the release schedule afterwards?

I dunno.  I asked that very thing on the playtest forum, and haven't received a reply yet.

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I'll be standing-by Tas, for any and all eventualities ! :;):  And Tom, I'm well aware of the "Tactic" ... however so is the "enemy" ...   :;):

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:06 pm 
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Wow.  I have to say this sounds bad.

Epic will go on sale at the end of January, in Europe at least. The rules will be sold as a rulebook on their own, supported by boxed sets and blister packs of miniatures (i.e. the same way that Warmaster works). A small selection of product *may* be available in stores, but the bulk of the range will be available only through mail order.

We'll be releasing three armies at first (Orks, Marines and Guard). The release will be staggered over three months, but the first month release will include all you need to field a playable army. We'll release the Eldar at the end of 2004, and then bring out roughly one army a year after that for Tyranids, Chaos, Necrons and Tau. Apart from new races, we'll also be adding new models to the existing armies on a regular basis.

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I asked if he really meant they cut the schedule in half - 1 army /6 months or so to 1/year - and I'm waiting for a reply.

I really think that slow of a release could kill the possibility of an Epic resurgence and keep it limited to those of us who are die-hard fans.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:14 pm 
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What can I say ...  :{  :(

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Hi!

The only way to salvage the situation would be to release IMMEDIATELY after the games release in the summer everything that has been released since February in the UK to compensate for the lag. IF they hold to a delayed release in the US compounding the late release, that is BAD for the games appeal.

Not very good news.... :{

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Urgh... yeah, I've been pretty positive overall about Epic:A, but this really is bad news- I knew Eldar wouldn't be out until the end of 2004, but 'one army a year'...nasty :( ...well, we can hope that we get a lot of great minis and support for each army as it appears I guess...  :oo

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Do I hear a funeral dirge in the background? Just what are the bozos in GW marketing thinking. Or, rather, when are they going to START thinking... :blues:

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I dont think the "marketing bozos" are thinking at all. In fact I'd bet the whole "epic thing" is beneath their radar and have not given it much thought. I truely believe Jervis is all alone on this project and its beginning to show.

By the way, "one army a year" IF the sales projections hold. IF not then NO ARMIES A YEAR.

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This all seems kinda odd, as JJ himself said one army every 6 months (at GD UK), thus Tau was a "mere" 2 years away.

Plus, this theory seems to have worked with warmaster, as they have been slowly adding armies every so often since its release.

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Hi!

But remember warmaster had quite a few armies released quickly and then added to those slowly. In epic's case were talking about waiting years for all the core armies to appear, let alone ones like the Tau or Necron.

Also, warmaster had a very good run prior to going "fanatic" and their sales seem quite good still.

Epic has none of these things going for it.

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Why is everyone viewing this as a dead game before it has even gone into production? We don't know what the future brings. We don't know how much WD is going to publicise it, nor how much will be stocked in stores or if any games will be played in stores. As long as they do the right thing at the right time we will be ok, and the game will survive, but as of right now, I am afraid that they are not at all sorted...

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I don't think we're writing E-A off, but we would all like to see new models, good rules etc.  However, when you see what has been going on with the E-A experiment, you have to admit, it is always not ... good ?! ???

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