The issue with that Honda is that every other epic army is a CC/FF army in comparison to Tau. I only won the combat in the game against Hena with an outrageous number of armour saves.

I'm continuing to try and find a sweet spot for the ML/GM army but its looking tough right now.

Idon't know if anyone else will do this, but I am going to take a trip back to the Peer review and equivalent threads to see how the perceptions are holding up.

@Mephiston: I know that every army is stronger in FF/CC that the Tau (actually so are Girl Scouts), but so far, other than your list, I would characterize a number of Chroma's lists as testing the "edges of the bell curve". I don't know if it was always conscious or not, but the selections in his lists seemed to not match up well against their opponents.

Which at this stage in the testing, is not a bad thing. We should be testing all sorts of combinations. However, what it has also indicated to me, though we won't know definitely for awhile, is that it may have been Ok to leave the AHMC as a core to help strengthen the lack of hitting power that we're observing.

The way I remember my earlier games, one of the things I used to strive for is to out and out kill 1-2 of the opponent's activations per turn and hopefully do that while preserving mine. That would give me activation advantages later in the game and reduce the number of options of the opponent.

What I haven't seen yet, is formations working in coordination with each other so that an opposing formation gets hammered until it is gone. I also haven't seen any Coord-Fire, which facilitates that occurring.

This isn't meant to be a criticism of playing style and I'll find out on my own when my games start lining up, but right now, I don't get the feeling that the Tau are being played like Tau...almost as if they were being played like something else...maybe Eldar.

Just an odd impression really.

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Honda

"Remember Taros? We do"

- 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment

Tau really have to focus on keeping the opponent at arm's reach and taking out units

Actually, I never know what I'm facing until my opponents pull out their armylist... I'll have long since made my Tau force for the fight... or sometimes I'll drop Necrons or Tyranids or something else to keep things changed up.

All I ask my opponents is "Bring an army from one of the published lists", so there's no conscious or subconscious "tuning" of my test lists.

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How are Tau supposed to be played?

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Co-ord fire works well when I've used  it, for sure, but it also leaves me with less activations than my opponent, so your aim of "giving me an activation advantage" is wrong here Honda. It most defintely doesn't.

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Honda

"Remember Taros? We do"

- 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment

Time and play testing will tell

I thought (assumed) that a formation could only control one objective at any given time.

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-Malakai

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Nope... technically, a large enough formation could control *ALL* the objectives if they were spread out enough... never seen that happen though... *laugh*

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Curious, is this because the rules say they can or that it doesn't say it can't?

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-Malakai

"You'll never understand how much watching other people's pain gets me off, hearing their screams and knowing that I have the power of a god." -Velvet Acid Christ

Here's the basic rule on how to hold an objective:

You capture an objective if you have a unit within 15cms of it
in the end phase and your opponent does not.

"A unit" is a single model in the game, there's no reference to "formation" in that rule, so a formation made up of multiple units, which most are, has the ability to capture/hold multiple objectives.

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I dunno why I just assumed one formation to an objective. Sometimes reading the rules the term "unit" will confuse me. I still think in terms of a unit comprising several models (like 40K). I have to remind myself to use the term formation.    

Anyway, cool battle report Chroma! It was a good read.

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