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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?!  Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:06 pm |
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Sections 5 and 6 (unit stats and army lists) to be added to the vault tomorrow, pending resolution of a server problem.
That is all.
Actually, Jervis has a list of last minute tweaks if you want to mosey over to the playtest forum.
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:47 pm |
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Hi!
The new files to download for Epic A look very nice and I am looking forward to getting them.
As for Epic A, its success is not dependant on how good of a game it is. It is a good game. But on GW's backing of this game. I already see several things that will kill this game "market-wise':
1. Only available through GW. Even if some people like it, not having it available through independent stores severely limits exposure to potential new gamers. Not to mention not being able to get it at a discount wont do it any favors. What do you do when you demo games for it at independant stores that cant carry it? I dont think the local game store owner would appreciate demoing games that you need to order from GW directly. There is not much interest in their part to promote this game since they cant profit from it.
2. Weak or non-existant support through GW house organs. While I expect an article or two in WD, how long will articles for epic appear in WD? WILL there be any in WD? Will there be a epic magazine? How will they generate excitement when currently there is no form of support other than the playtest forum?
3. GW is NOT behind this product. We all know about certain regional GW like GW australia not carrying epic A and the fact that its availability to local GW is more dependant on the manager's bias than policy form GW, that alone is bad PR, but what about the fact that NO ONE but Jervis seems to be involved with epic? Where's that great defender of epic 40k Robin Dews? Where Andy Chambers? Where's Gavin Thorpe? Has anyone heard from ANYBODY from GW, besides Jervis, drop in and support epic? Or is Jervis the only voice in an otherwise empty desert? The perception this leaves to the potential costumer is, to put it mildly, no very encouraging.
These alone makes it VERY difficult for the game to attract a "critical mass". IF it cannot achieve this mass further resources will not be allocated to it.
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:10 am |
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| Quote (Teekkari @ 23 2003 Oct.,17:30) | As a matter of fact, starting tomorrow - I plan simply to turn up in the GW Helsinki store with opponent and the miniatures in tow and say, "We play. Epic. Now."... well, at least something to that effect  . |
There is a GW store in Helsinki? When has that appeared? 
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:37 am |
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| Quote (Mojarn Piett @ 24 2003 Oct.,07:10) | | There is a GW store in Helsinki? When has that appeared? ? |
Indeed there is. I was somewhat surprised also, since I haven't been in Finland too much recently...Apparently the store has been open for 1? months now. It is on a good location, though - right next to the bus station, in Simonkeskus (I think), lowest level.
Thursday evenings are gaming nights, but then the store seems to be totally jammed with pint-sized fellows (not meaning dwarfs here). Starting November, they are going to have Fridays dedicated to gaming - mostly Lord of the Rings now, but apparently it would be ok to play other games (read: Epic) also. Will try to confirm that today!
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:38 pm |
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:06 pm |
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Whoa-ho-ho. The army lists are up.
I would recommend browsing the unit stats for the pics, if nothing else. I've only started, but I'm very pleased. I especially dig the new Stompa model, but I'm sure many others will be good iimprovements.
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:03 pm |
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It's only going to be available through GW stores?!? Arrrrrrgh! ^*%#! Well, I was hoping to buy some of this stuff, but now I'm not too thrilled about it. There are no GW stores in my city (Portland, Oregon, USA). I never used to have trouble getting Space Marine or Titan Legions stuff, but I see that times have changed, and getting tiny little Terminators is going to be harder than I though... 
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:30 pm |
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G/W US MO ... it's only a phone call or e-mail away ... I've been doing it for over 10 years ... 
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:15 pm |
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Drool, the new rule book sections are kick ass! I'm gonna spend hours looking through them...
I may even print them! 
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:46 pm |
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Is anyone else having problems loading section 5.3?
I got the rest fine, but I've tried twice today, a couple of hours apart, and it refuses to load.
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:53 pm |
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Lol, non of mine will load...stupid Adobe Acrobat reader
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:20 pm |
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I think I'm going to build a formation of "Deth Wheelz" like on the first page of the Ork section. I even happen to have a bunch of bitz that will work.
I have no idea why, but that picture makes me really want a Speed Freeks army.*
Buggies and Bikes and Dethwheelz, oh my!
*No claims about actual art quality are made or implied. Your mileage may vary.
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:27 pm |
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Hi!
The layout of the rules and army lists are quite nice, much better than the last version.
Legion4, buying from GWUS mail order is easy, but
a. You cant see and hold before you buy, pictures are nice but it cant beat holding in your hands.
b. No discounts via GW, which I might add is becoming more and more of an issue with GW customers, new and old.
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Post subject: Space Marine Attack bikes - what use?! Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:44 am |
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