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Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:15 am Posts: 461 Location: UK
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During the first turn i picked apart the isolated garrison units - concentrating on supressing and subsequently destroying the biovore thingy unit with artillery and air units.
Aye, I plan to deploy on my Blitz with these in future.
At the start of turn 2 i won the initiative as i gambled (Fairly safely really) i would and after loosing a barrage with the void spinner, retained and initiated an assault on the large fm of nid infantry advancing down the narrow valley, parallell to the one the Dominatrix unit was marching down.  Using the commander ability and my speed i managed to get my aspect unit, a falcon troupe and a powerfist Phantom titan into engagement range whilst avoiding supporting fire from the Dominatrix unit.
Not much I could do to prevent this, the whole point of a 2 activation maximum is that your opponent can't be royally screwed before he can do anything...
If I used Nids against Eldar again, I guess I'd sit back and wait for them to come to me. Likely they wouldn't, just sitting back ready to grab objectives. Then it would be a case of turn 3, can I hold my objectives, can the Eldar repel me from them.
The best I can aim for against Eldar is a stalemate, or draw.
What won this for me i think was the superior maneuverability of the eldar, crafty objective placement and an almost garaunteed first activation.
The ability to jump into weapon range, shoot, then jump out of my assault range.
The ability to ignore all terrain, even to move to the edge of some terrain, pop-up, shoot, then pop-down behind it without retaliation.
The ability to activate 3 times, with portals.
The free Avatar.
Superior mobility.
Guaranteed first activation (first 3, even 5 if you count Commander, activations to be precise).
The skimmer issue was an amusing (For me anyway, lol - sorry Si!) sideshow but IMO wasn't really a deciding factor, although i would definately have taken more casualties during engagements, i'm pretty confident that i had stacked things very much in my favour.
I agree that you would have won those engagements without the Skimmer immunity, I call rubbish on the Skimmer immunity being a non-factor in the game. It was huge.
Imagine me telling you your Falcon Troupes cannot hurt any of my formations, ever. That's Genestealers/Lictors. Then telling you instead of the 3+ and Macro Weapons you paid pts for, you can only use a few 5+ rolls instead.
It's a frikkin huge deal when half my army literally can't hurt you, and the other half is severely weakened more than normal when it can.
The Skimmer rule is the reason I stopped playing Eldar in 40k, it sucks any tactics out of the opponent's plans, he simply is outclassed by better units that are immune to his.
It's worth noting that i've had quite a bit of experience with Eldar now and am really starting to find my feet, whilst this was the first outing for the nids.  I wish we'd taken pictures of this battle TBH as i do find Epic battles quite hard to describe.
It would have been even more confusing, I was using SM models to proxy Nids.
I can definately see why Eldar are such a frustrating army to play against for nids.  The combination of high speed, excellent FF values and almost certain first activation potential makes eldar very well suited to taking on nids, especially an inexperienced Nid player
I think the Skimmer immunity cannot be understated, essentially I'm fighting with half a weakened army. Eldar are frustrating to play regardless of army used, there is no rock to Eldar scissors.
Play defensive, and play for a draw is all I can find.
All that being said i did enjoy the game and my opponent was a good sport throughout and using his guard in the next game gave me an extremely tough game that by rights he really should have won
I was outplayed, as I've said before, even if all the special rules and Skimmer immunity was removed, I was encircled, and you managed some elaborate combined Engagements. The difference would be I could put up a fight.
'Should have won' is my epitaph, I appreciate the vote of confidence. I'm planning to use my opponent's dice, just for a change.
If I've not mentioned it here, my IG. My Shadowswords moved through cover, rolled a 1, rolled a Critical. The 2nd one is clipped by a single Falcon shot, another Critical. Not fired a shot yet... That sums up that game.
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