Login |  Register |  FAQ
   
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF

 Post subject: Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:20 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:25 am
Posts: 97
Location: Taiwan, at the moment...
If, say a Wraithlord, which has no small arms listed, is involved in a firefigh;, does it use it's brightlance?

If so, can it use it's 'Lance' ability?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:30 pm 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 9540
Location: Worcester, MA
The special ability would have to be on a Small Arms weapon or in the notes for it to be used in an assault. So no, no Lance in FF.

Small Arms really don't need to be listed on unit profiles unless the unit has no other shooting attack (it would have to be listed then for purposes of suppression) or if they need a special ability.




_________________
Dave

Blog

NetEA Tournament Pack Website

Squats 2019-10-17


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:03 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:49 am
Posts: 5569
(small arms) is really just there for completeness and aesthetics, or FF special rules. The lack of a small arms weapon means nothing - if it has a firefight value it can firefight. It doesn't use other weapons and their special abilities, sorry.

_________________
http://www.troublemakergames.co.uk/
Epic: Hive Development Thread


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:38 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:25 am
Posts: 97
Location: Taiwan, at the moment...
I thought I saw somewhere that if you have Assault weapons but no Small Arms, then you couldn't FF?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:43 pm 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 9540
Location: Worcester, MA
If you have a FF score you can firefight. Whether a small arms weapon is on the data sheet is irrelevant with that regard. Again, they only really need to be listed if the unit has no other shooting attacks or if they have a special ability associated with them.

Consider this, many units don't have a Assault Weapon in their profile, yet they can still fight in base to base.




_________________
Dave

Blog

NetEA Tournament Pack Website

Squats 2019-10-17


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:18 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:44 am
Posts: 553
Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
Quote: (Dave @ 18 Dec. 2008, 17:30 )

Small Arms really don't need to be listed on unit profiles unless the unit has no other shooting attack (it would have to be listed then for purposes of suppression)

Could you elaborate on this suppression thing?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:25 pm 
Hybrid
Hybrid
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:25 pm
Posts: 9540
Location: Worcester, MA
Sure.

If a unit has no shooting attack but has small arms on its sheet (all of which have a range of 15cm) it can be suppressed if it's within 15cm of an enemy unit in the formation being fired upon. So with some careful arranging you can have units with shooting attacks in the same unit take some shots if your within 15cm and they're up front.

The only requirements for suppression is that the firing unit has LOS and is within range to the target.

This doesn't come up to often though.




_________________
Dave

Blog

NetEA Tournament Pack Website

Squats 2019-10-17


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject: Models with Firepower, but no small arms in FF
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:42 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:10 pm
Posts: 2642
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Quote: (konate @ 18 Dec. 2008, 09:38 )

I thought I saw somewhere that if you have Assault weapons but no Small Arms, then you couldn't FF?

That was in  one of the original versions of the E:A rules. But that was pulled out years ago.

I think it was mentioned in the rules preview that was in Epic Magazine although I could be wrong.

_________________
Guns don't break formations. Blast Markers break formations.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 20 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB ® Forum Software © phpBB Group
CoDFaction Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net