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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:10 pm 
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I am sure this is the what the final version will look like.  I doubt they have the time to see what the fans think, and make changes as they go along.  After all, they thought the last Eldar titan ws a good idea, and it was almost universally hated.

I love purity seals I titans.  I don't care how big they are supposed to be.  This is just fantasy. . . I just don't like a lot of them.  I think one or two tops on a Warlord or Reaver is fine, but this many on a scout is really just over-doing it.

As far as the eagle logo, something so in your face belongs on a warlord.  

I have a lot of the old beetles, a few of the old reavers, and so on, but I really like the newer Warlord and the FW warhound.  If you ask me though, every attempt should be made to make the models look more like the original reaver.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:49 pm 
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...one of my favourite Epic model defiantly, especially great looking with a multiple rocket launcher as each arm...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:56 pm 
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Definately. Any weapon mounted looked good, so long as you didn't mount the metal support missiles on the carapace when they were designed for the arms, but the reaver's multiple missile launchers looked really nice. ?My first one ever came with a powerfist, lascannon, and multiple missile launcher and I still have one in that configuration.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:32 pm 
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i personally like this new warhound. I do not like the hooves much, but it's the only thing i consider disapointing. Titans are holy warengine that take many years to build, and as the armed fist of the machine god, they would certainly receive many blessing and decoration for their deed... as such purity seals are fine with me. I recently looked back in some old WD (about issue 113 to 123), lots of AT/SM stuff, and there was lots of seals, banners, and such all over the titans.
There is even background explaining that the seals are made to look like wax but arn't.

Anyway, most of those seals could easily be filed out if you want to.
The legs and their position, and the shape of the torso, are true to the original warhound while still sligtly different, the model is much more detailed. the head is way better detailed, and much less cartoony than the original, which looked more like it was alive than if it was cockpit (which made the original Warhound sligtly too chaotic to my taste for an imperial machine).
I can understand how the gun in the mouth may not be to the liking of some, but it remind me of the old "combat head". Once painted i think it won't be as chocking as it seems on this unpainted model.

I really love the great imperial eagle on the back; the assymetry let a large space on the other side if we want to apply some heraldy or complex scheme (stripes for example).

The little bastion and guns on the sides of the head are very nice too; i think it help capture the dark and gothic feeling of the 40K universe.

My main regret, however, is that the main weapon don't look like we'll be able to mount them facing in various directions. I really dislike this on the old warhound, it made it the only titan i disliked in the old range, but i'm afraid this horrible limitation will be back.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:35 pm 
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Hi!

I agree the old reaver and its weapon mounts were VERY nice. So much so I like using them on warlords. There are some old style warlord weapons on the GW archive that would great too.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:40 am 
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Yes, I mounted some of the Reaver weapons on my Warlords too !  They look cool ! :D

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The Reaver is the best of the old range. But we has only four, my precioussss.  :{  I'll got to get some more.  }:)

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I'm sorry, this "new" warhound is the ugliest thing I have ever seen.  Most technology advances warrant an evolutionary design, as far as weaponry goes.  Okay , okay, I know, it is set way off into the future and blah blah, etc, etc, but still, there should have been some effort to retain some of the blocky, thicker feel of the older warlord/fw warhound titans.  I personally adore my FW warhounds, and you won't catch me putting any of my hard earned cash down on these things.

Just my 2 bits worth.

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The F/W Titans are very good ! This new version is a step backwards, but I think that is what Jervis was going for.  And Devotion Seals are just down right goofy !  Not in the L4 SoTR !  Just cause it's Sci-fi doesn't mean it has to be goofy !    :angry:  :laugh:  }:)  :cool:

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Hi!

It seems the old reaver were extremely popular. Their look was pretty good and their metal weapons were so much more attractive than the plastic ones.

Precious indeed!  :D

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I loved the old Reavers - especially in Metallic blue.... ah.... metallic blue and silver, so easy to paint but so effect to see.

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Hi!

Those colors were slick, I have one like that. I prefered blood read and bronzed gold trimming for most of them, although I through in some heraldic chevrons for contrast.

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The good thing is that we will have choice. People wanting dark future gothic titan will go for the GW range; people wanting more strict "clean" sci-fi models will prefer FW ones.

A small thing tho : the FW warhound is really exceptional in details, and the FW model can be assembled in about any position you want, wich is a very good feature that cannot be considered a matter of taste.
However, i hear unexperienced modeller complain about how it make the mini more difficult to use, so maybe it's good that the GW one is "simpler" in that regard.

And just a precision : when i talked about the "weapon mount" on the warhound, i refered to the way the weapon were mounted, not the weapon itself; the old metal one were the same for warhound and reaver anyway.

by the way, the "squary" design isn't the old one; it's a rather new one on the contrary, which originated in the mk3 warlord; but original titans were much more akin to this warhound for their shape.

I like both design "school" and will probably buy some of this new warhounds... the 6 (old) ones i have are more than enough, but this one is much better in my taste, and at least different.

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Hi!

Overall the FW minins are very good, they have clean lines and are pleasing to the eye, I haven't seen one yet I REALLY dislike, but they are somwhat "plain". This is good however for those who like to convert since its easier to add things on them.

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And the other weird thing about FW models which takes some getting used to, is picking up a large titan to find it doesnt weigh anything beasue its resin.

Its a mental thing, but I miss the heavy lead of big bad models! :L

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