The Eldar were the forgotten army in SM1. W/D 117 had some of the same Eldar Vehicle & infantry data as Codex Titanicus. Also check the other W/Ds around 116-124.  There were no Templates/lists/TO&Es released for SM1 Eldar as for SM1 SMs, IG, Squats, Orks and Chaos ... they went to SM2 before the Eldar got a decent TO&E with the Card system.  And that SM2 System with some modifications is what we use for our Eldar ...

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Marine wise the following models came out in 1st ed (leaving out the other Imperial stuff which they could often use)
Land Raider (MK2? Its in the forgeworld book). No terminator transport capacity, 2 twin lascannon, metal
Land raider, no termie transport, 2 twin lascannon, one heavy bolter
Rhino, 2 different metal and 1 plastic
Predator, Autocannon, 2 lascannon, metal
Whirlwind, could transport 5 men, metal
Vindicator, metal
Mole Mortar, metal
Thudd Gun, metal
Rapier, metal
Land Speeder, metal and plastic, mounting heavy plasma guns and something else
Robots, 5 different types, 5 metal 2 plastic (3 plastic?)
Dreadnaughts, 3 different types, 4 different metal models
Jetbikes, metal
Bikes, plastic
Plastic marines
Am I missing any? They are a mere 5 meters away but I can't face shifting all the boxes!

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I'm not too convinced by the idea of using old Space Marine/Adeptus Titanicus organisation and vehicles for Pre-Heresy myself. The background has moved on massively due to the Horus Heresy novels and Collected Visions book, plus some background in the Imperial Armour books on when vehicles were first used by the Legions.There is now more detailed information on the Pre-Heresy period than there has been in the past, and much of it invalidates the older background. The thread I linked to earlier (here) is a combined effort and has as much info as possible on what was available to Marine and Guard armies during this period, and is well worth a look.

Another thing to bear in mind is according to current background, there was huge variation in how Legions were organised compared to the current 'Codex' setup. The Death Guard, for example, only had 7 Companies, but each one was many thousands strong (ditto the Space Wolves with 13). In contrast, other Legions had many more companies - the Luna Wolves had at least 25, and the Emperor's Children at least 18 (Source - HH Novels) but they were smaller - Garviel Loken leads the 10th Company of the Luna Wolves, which is only 600 Marines strong. Not only does this mean that working out a shared organisational structure for all the Legions is rather futile, it also invalidates much of the old Space Marine/Adeptus Titanicus information.

@Mephiston - Land Raiders available for Tactical Detatchments is a good idea actually... prior to the Heresy and the Traitors taking control of the primary Forgeworld that produced them, Land Raiders were much more common, and even used by the Imperial Army.

@Legion 4 - There is nothing in the current Heresy background that supports the Marines using tunellers or the CI. I know that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but I'd still prefer some Canon background supporting their use before I start adding in new units... I'm trying to keep things as close to the current background as possible.

I'm with the Sorceror here. Although TO&E charts are well detailed in SM1 by using Red's idea of adding 2 stands to each formation you only have to up the points cost of each formation accordingly to get larger formations of troops.

I think I will propose this for our next game tomorrow.

D.

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Understand ... I can quote old fluff about the tunnellers (pgs.36-37, Codex Titanicus) and CI(pgs. 21 & 23, W/D 126)... Both on the back cover of W/D 123.  W/D 130 Article - Praetorians(CI & Hellbore)pgs.48-51. To name a few.  I only quote that for those who want those vehicles in their Heresy Fluff. However, I see your point, current fluff will guide you.  But as I always say ... ADWWFY  - "Always Do What Works For You" !  For me my Blood Angels have all 3 types of the Tunnellers and every SM Rgt has a CI in the Rgtl HQ.  Based on the old TO&Es/rules ...    We don't use Stormbirds at all, since we stay with the old fluff and SM, IG and Squats CAN use Rhinos.   So I'm very OLD SCHOOL !   ADWWFY !

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I must say if thats the background on the legions thats a bit crap, they have become tiny. The Legions were the size of conventional armies, to give you an idea the Soviet army of 1945 was 11-12 million strong.

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Most G/W Fluff is Crap !!  IMO ...      

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wow!  Definately a lot of interest in Epic Heresy!  

I'm really getting excited about the possibility of doing at least 1 of the legions properly, but as mentioned would love to be able to play Istvaan III "massacre" games!  

I've looked through the SM1 book, old WD's, the Horus Heresy visions books and read the novels so should be able to sort out the look and feel of the Heresy era legions......

Some thoughts:

Tac. squads should be available in very large formations with captain upgrades, dreadnoughts and tanks
Assault squads not so widely available (except World Eaters)
Armour available, land raiders, predators, whirlwinds and vindicators, legions also had access to super heavy tanks (but maybe only 1 or 2?)
Librarians only Thousand sons, Chaplains mostly Word bearers but also introduced to Legions......
jetbikes were used, maybe with land speeders as upgrades?
terminators used quite freely
thunderhawks introduced prior to Istvaan but Stormbirds widely used

Been trying to find pics of Stormbirds but haven't found anything useful, anyone know what they looked like? Any good proxy's that people can think of?

@The Real Chris:
OK, tiny compared to the Red Army in WW2. But still, according to the recent background, 'Most Legions could muster at least 100,000 combatants. The Ultramarines Legion was by far the largest, and its Primarch, Roboute Guilliman, could muster over 250,000 Space Marines.' So compared to the 1,000 Marines per Chapter in the current background, it is at least slightly more credible!

@darth tater:

Don't forget that the Blood Angels, Raven Guard, and Night Lords also used plenty of Assault Squads. More recent background seems to have moved slightly away from the original idea that Jump Packs were extremely rare (for example, the number of assault squads from many Legions pictured in the Collected Visions book) so I'm not sure limiting Assault Suads is necessary.

Before the Council of Nicaea, all Legions used Librarians. After that Chaplains were introduced to all the Legions to keep watch on the use of psykers, so its probably an either/or option for Librarians/Chaplains during this period. Of course, once the Traitors rebelled they would happily use Librarians, and the background suggests that the Loyalists were prepared to use their Librarians as well once the Heresy became desperate.  

According to the Novels, most Legions were mainly using the Thunderhawk by the late Great Crusade period, although clearly use of the Stormbird remained common. I just posted a summary of what the novels say about the appearance of the Stormbird in the other Heresy thread, so have a look there.

EDIT: Oh, and Vindicators were not developed until later on within the Heresy - they wouldn't be available at Istvaan V.