Sorry All been a bit busy.....................
The Original rule for Stubborn from the SM/TL game had the Squats re-roll any assault dice that came up '1' to "......give most opponents a run for their money as they will normally get a good, or at least reasonable, score."
We did try this in Epic-A and it was a bloody mess making the Squats murder in assaults, and hardly reflected the background as stated in the SM/TL rule book. After a number of games we also realized it was going to be real hard to play balance it anyways so we dropped it.
Further, "Solid and stubborn in defense and relentless in attack, Squats make excellent infantry. Individual Squat infantry squads are highly disciplined and fiercely determined, their pride and sense of honor both to their revered Ancestors and fellow warriors makes it impossible for them to do otherwise. Squats are particularly resolute in close combat, refusing to go down without putting up a good fight."
The SS in WWII were trained to be near suicidal in the attack, and were trained to carry out offensive action even when on defense. This combination got them into trouble on more then one occasion when prudent action would have been more profitable then the near idiotic offensive actions they carried out. At Arras in 1940 Totenkopf rather then roll with the attack being delivered by 'Frank Force' (UK Infantry supported by Matilda Infantry Tanks) and remnants of the 3rd DLM (French S-35 and H-39 Tanks supported by Motorized Infantry) the SS attacked!
They had no Tanks of their own, their PzB-39 AT Rifles were useless against the heavy armor of the allied tanks (from all aspects), and their handful of 37mm At Guns couldn't hurt the French Tanks at anything but point blank range, and were totally ineffective against the Matildas (74 Matildas took the field at Arras). The results were massive losses in infantry while obtaining nothing but those huge losses. Totenkopf would have accomplished more if they'd given ground until the 7th Panzer arrived to launch an effective counter-attack, for sure a lot more of those SS troopers would have survived the battle.
At Kharkov the 1st SS threw away the advantage of the Panthers better armor and gun by launching foolish attacks against the 3rd Guard Mechanized Corp. Instead of laying back with those wonderful Panthers they foolishly closed the range on the Soviet T-34s to 'drive off the slavs' only to let those same slavs get into a position were they could 'flame' those same expensive Panthers. In effect they threw away their advantage! Once again the SS may have taken the ground they thought needed to be taken, but in the end the cost was way too high (Kharkov fell, and the SS was forced to withdraw as they had nothing left to stop the now reinforced 3rd Guard Mechanized Corp (Two Tank Brigades were added from Front Reserves) with.)
Sorry but this doesn't sound like Stubborn, it sounds more like determindly stupid and wasteful. As Brotherhoods are just that, a formation made up of relatives, they wouldn't just throw themselves blindly at the enemy (As the SS often did). On the other hand they will also not want to look bad in combat around their relatives either so they would be less likely to run. Also they would also be more likely to rally around the flag as, once again, the formation is being led by a relative and they wouldn't want to look bad.
Any Thoughts?
Jaldon
Would be moderated by formation size I guess. If you wanted more random couls be sacrifice a stand get the extra D6 to roll.