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Post subject: Anti-Eldar Tactics  Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:06 pm |
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Hi!
The centurion models would make great slan proxies since most of it is grav type vehicles.
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Mojarn Piett
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Post subject: Anti-Eldar Tactics Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:44 am |
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| Quote (primarch @ 13 2003 Sep.,22:34) | Hi!
I once heard "communism" was just a longer more painful route to reach capitalism....
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I am going to regret saying this. But I'm still going to say it...
There is a reason why "Capitalism" works somewhat better than "Communism". Capitalism is based on the premise of human selfishness and greed. Because this basic foundation of human nature has been got right, and built upon, it works.
Communism, OTOH, makes the same mistake as the humanistic philosophy, namely thinking that there are totally unselfish human beings around. The thing practiced in Soviet Union, however, ?should be called "Red Fascism" as that is a far more accurate description of it.
That said, I don't give pure capitalism high marks either for the simple reason that it _is_ based on human selfishness and greed. Certainly I don't belive for a second that the so-called "market forces" automatically provide what is good for people. "Market Forces" tend to give to those who already have and take from those who don't have.
It's a _very_ imperfect world.  ?
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Post subject: Anti-Eldar Tactics Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:04 pm |
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Well Capitalism works over Communism ... for many reasons, good and bad. ?However being a child of Capitalism all my life, a free market society does give everyone the chance to succeed, in theory. Your opinion is not unusual for many Europeans. It does not upset me, we are use to the criticism ! ? ?Of course Stalin's version of Communism had as much to do with real Communism as bin Laden does with Islam ...
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Post subject: Anti-Eldar Tactics Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:51 pm |
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Hi!
Mojarn, no need to be apologetic, thats EXACTLY the reason capitalism works. Any economic or government model that does not take into account the "natural" drives of the human being is doomed to faliure. Communism and most "socialist" movements don't work precisely because people want "things" usually more than they really need. As a race we have not yet evolved past our base and petty deires for "our own good" instead of whats good for our race in general.
If you like "trueisms" here's a couple more:
Communism is capitalism for the few....
Democracy only grants an illusion of freedom, power is still held by but a few powerful interest groups....
My rights as an individual end when there is no longer anything to profit from them....
My neighbors rights begin when they do not impinge on my profits or selfish needs....
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Post subject: Anti-Eldar Tactics Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:02 pm |
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Too quote a recent rock song ... "It's a wicked world we live in !" 
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Post subject: Anti-Eldar Tactics Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:46 pm |
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Post subject: Anti-Eldar Tactics Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 11:11 pm |
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For those of you playing EA, I am soliciting all opinions on anti-Eldar tactics, especially those applicable for use by SM and CSM forces.
What I am interested in are tactics that a well rounded, tournament-style force could use against Eldar. I am not interested in army selection suggestions. I can definitely tool up an anti-Eldar army pretty easily but that doesn't help on the fly.
The problem that I run into is that Eldar have hordes of MW fire. A lot of the SM and CSM unit cost comes from the fact that they are definitely well-armored. MW negates that and as both forces are few in number, Eldar seem tailor-made to shred SM and CSM. I have yet to find tactics that work consistently.
Thanks for any help, guys.
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Post subject: Anti-Eldar Tactics Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:38 am |
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I've had success with the usual drop-podding Scouts supported by Thunderhawks and Terminators. The scouts can assault Eldar vehicle formations (Falcons, Prisms, Engines of Vaul) on Turn 1 and make the Eldar spend turn 1 dealing with the nuisance while I get to keep the initiative and maneuver for positions. To summarize, do what Marines always do: kill the soft firepower fast.
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