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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:12 pm 
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the problem with this approach is that what you think is "best" is not what I think is "best" nor is necessarily "best" if of course we can define "best".

One of the "best" things about Epic40K for *ME* was the simplicity of the system and how everything was based on strategic detachments rather than individualising units - I had no problems with the fact that all Ork battlewagons (regardless of model) were the same as I felt the Ork detachment was important rather than an individual Bowelburna - my units didn't need to be differentiated within the rules even if the models were differentiated.

I know that a lot of Epic players (old and new) do want more differentiated units and think that individualising and adding detail to units is the "best" way of going about this - I don't, we are never going to agree.


Jimbo brings a point I have thought about for some time and that is of course "different strokes for different folks", but also that we should assume that the only sides in epic are "old school" and "new wave". There are a lot of epic players like Jimbo who were perfectly fine with epic40k and we should assume that this group will "automatically" convert or like the new version. They may not be as vocal as the old hands, but I have heard quite a few gamers say they were quite please with epic40k and find the heavier detailing unnesseary.

Goes to show that there are indeed may "strata" of tastes in epic.


You can please some of the people all of the time or all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time!!!


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:15 pm 
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When it comes down to it though, I am about ready for the thing to just be published... Then I can do a page of house rules (including titan weapon options is about the only one I can think of at the moment) and get on with it, without the rules changing every few weeks!!  I know most of my local epic group have similar views.


I agree. I stopped playing the experimental rules around version 10 or so. I just want the finished product and tailor it to my tastes.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm 
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Yes, I'll have to agree, we may agree or disagree, but we usually take it all in stride and no one really flames another poster. ?

However I did threaten to bomb Mojarn in Finland with an ICBM, but it was Primarch's idea! I wanted to use a MOAB! :laugh:

(Editor's note: What is a MOAB? Something, something bomb?)

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I'm thinking that it's about time I made sure that PG and crew were made aware of this thread if they aren't already "in the know." I don't like to talk about people behind their backs and the best way to keep that from happening is to let him know.

What do you guys think?

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Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 16 2003 Aug.,08:39)
I'm thinking that it's about time I made sure that PG and crew were made aware of this thread if they aren't already "in the know." I don't like to talk about people behind their backs and the best way to keep that from happening is to let him know.
What do you guys think?
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Legion-4,
What is a MOAB?


That is up to you.

I am not sure what it will do other then let some people know that there are others who disagree with them. I would bet that they already know that.

However, do what you think it right.

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Quote (MaksimSmelchak @ 16 2003 Aug.,08:39)
What is a MOAB?


Oops forgot...

MOAB - Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb

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http://www.twin-towers.net/moab_bomb.htm

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I'm thinking that it's about time I made sure that PG and crew were made aware of this thread if they aren't already "in the know." I don't like to talk about people behind their backs and the best way to keep that from happening is to let him know.

What do you guys think?


I think some may already know since I'm pretty sure they browse the forums even if they dont post. There's not that many epic forums.

Also, to be frank I see no real benefit in pointing it out. If you are asked about it, sure be open about it, there's nothing to hide. But otherwise I dont think there would be "appreciation" of the good intent behind the action given the friction of late.

I'd let it be.

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Great job, Dafrca! I loved the site! ?

You did a better job answering the MOAB questions than I could. A picture IS worth a 1000 words! ?

The closest to the MOAB that Epic comes is an SM-1 off-board heavy barrage or the Deathstike, at least in effect. But it is still a little under powered. An SM1 Vortex isn't right either. ?

Anyway, it is a very effective weapon, in theory... ?:D

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Great job, Dafrca! I loved the site! ?

You did a better job answering the MOAB questions than I could. A picture IS worth a 1000 words! ?

Why thank you. I do try to serve.  :;):

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Where did my post regarding split fire go?

Even Maksim commented on it.

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Gandalf,

Where did my post regarding split fire go?
Even Maksim commented on it.


Was it a thread here at Epicomms or at the official E-A Playtest Boards?

PG just got back from Gamesday Toronto so there's one possibility.

You could E-mail him and ask.

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You replied on it!

It was about not applying the automatic blastmarker when splitting fire. I swear if he deleted it...

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Gandalf,

You replied on it!


I reply to a lot of posts! It doesn't mean I remember them all.

I highly recommend E-mailing the PG and asking if he deleted it. That way you'll know for sure.

It was about not applying the automatic blastmarker when splitting fire. I swear if he deleted it...


Let's not jump to conclusions.

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Gandalf,
It's here:
http://forums.specialist-games.com/epic40k...._ID=183
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- Epic Armageddon
- Fan Rules/Lists
- How about this!
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Man, Maksim, you're a hero. The world owes you a debt of gratitude for preventing W.W.3. Well, I don't like where he moved it, but it is better than him deleting it.

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