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dafrca
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:24 am |
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Quote (primarch @ 03 2003 Aug.,14:29) | Hi!
The question is, do feral orks indeed have enough "tech level" to make steam powered engines?
They seem to be into axes, swords and rock throwing stuff.
But it IS a cool idea though!
Primarch | Why does it need to make sense? These are Orks after all. Guys who seem unable to build reliable vehicles and yet make space flight capable ships.
There is/has always seemed to be an odd mix of "high tech" and "low tech" in the 40k orks. At least that is what I see. Why should the Feral Orks be any different?
Just a thought
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:55 am |
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Quote (primarch @ 03 2003 Aug.,18:35) | Hi!
True, things dont NEED to make sense, but my brain seems to demand it, otherwise it gets quite cross with me...
Primarch | Yah, any other army and I try to make things "match" the level they seem to have already. IG is about WWII, Eldar lots of Anti-Grav etc.
But when it comes to Orks, for some reason, I do not mind the mixed and odd combinations. Advanced weapons and pre-industrial age creations in the same army.
Such is the way of the Ork.
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:05 am |
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Yes, the Orks would use what they could get their hands on and that works... ?
Sammies in Somalia, the Taliban in Afghanistan, the Viet Minh/Cong...
These are low-tech forces using technology beyond the capabilities of their regional to develop...
They sound like Orks to me.
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:53 am |
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Quote (primarch @ 03 2003 Aug.,22:11) | Hi!
The boiler room is a "hit location" on the Gargant template. I always assumed they were powered by coal, because old fluff mentions using gretchin to power the boiler room.
Steam would be a step back and very in character for Feral Orks.
Primarch. | There was also a scenario now you mention it, "Fight for Coal Mountain" or something like that. The SM's had to stop the Orks ferrying coal from a stockpile to their gargant before they could start the beast up and blow them all to hell & back.
So it appears we've all got excited over an idea which we've actually had available for years........ Oh well 
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primarch
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:04 pm |
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Hi!
There was also a scenario now you mention it, "Fight for Coal Mountain" or something like that. The SM's had to stop the Orks ferrying coal from a stockpile to their gargant before they could start the beast up and blow them all to hell & back.
So it appears we've all got excited over an idea which we've actually had available for years........ Oh well
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Good recall Tuff, I remember that one too!
One question though is steam more efficient than coal or the other way around?
I wonder if they use fossil fuels, the flyers seem to....
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:09 pm |
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1) coal burners and steam are not mutually exclusive 2) coal IS a ffossil fuel 
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:39 pm |
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Hi!
I meant fossil fuels as in crude oil.
Is coal a fossil fuel? What fossil does it come from?
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:12 am |
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Quote (primarch @ 04 2003 Aug.,15:39) | Hi!
I meant fossil fuels as in crude oil.
Is coal a fossil fuel? What fossil does it come from?
Primarch | I thought Coal was a mineral.
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:43 am |
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Quote (dafrca @ 05 2003 Aug.,04:12) | Quote (primarch @ 04 2003 Aug.,15:39) | Hi!
I meant fossil fuels as in crude oil.
Is coal a fossil fuel? What fossil does it come from?
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I thought Coal was a mineral.
dafrca | Its carbonized vegetable matter from millenia ago is it not? Thus making it a fossil fuel.
I have no idea which is more efficient, but I would guess that their aircraft have to use internal combustion technology at the least, but whether they produce tha parts of scavange them is another matter......
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:05 pm |
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Hi!
Well you learn something everyday, I thought coal was just a mineral deposit.
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:42 pm |
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Quote (primarch @ 05 2003 Aug.,07:05) | Hi!
Well you learn something everyday, I thought coal was just a mineral deposit.
Primarch | That is what I have always been told as well.
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:04 pm |
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Quote (dafrca @ 05 2003 Aug.,15:42) | Quote (primarch @ 05 2003 Aug.,07:05) | Hi!
Well you learn something everyday, I thought coal was just a mineral deposit.
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That is what I have always been told as well.
dafrca | Its quite possible that I am wrong, its only my recollection Vs yours - I certainly no expert on the subject!!
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:32 pm |
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From M-W.com:
1 : a piece of glowing carbon or charred wood : EMBER 2 : CHARCOAL 1 3 a : a black or brownish black solid combustible substance formed by the partial decomposition of vegetable matter without free access of air and under the influence of moisture and often increased pressure and temperature that is widely used as a natural fuel b plural, British : pieces or a quantity of the fuel broken up for burning
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dafrca
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Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:24 pm |
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Quote (TuffSkull @ 05 2003 Aug.,08:04) | Quote (dafrca @ 05 2003 Aug.,15:42) | Quote (primarch @ 05 2003 Aug.,07:05) | Hi!
Well you learn something everyday, I thought coal was just a mineral deposit.
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That is what I have always been told as well.
dafrca |
Its quite possible that I am wrong, its only my recollection Vs yours - I certainly no expert on the subject!! | Or to put it another way, It has been so long sense I was in any setting where that information was needed, I could be remembering wrong as well.
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