Login |  Register |  FAQ
   
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 4
  [ 50 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

New WE/AV Proposed Stats
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:38 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20887
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
I think fearless is fine on the Hierophant... if the points value has to change then so be it.

_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
ragnarok
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:45 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:43 pm
Posts: 2084
Location: Reading, England

(Hena @ Nov. 02 2006,14:56)
QUOTE
I'm hoping that the fearless on hierophant is a mistake as well. Because now the cost should be more like 325 ...

Ragna ... MC, GC, IB what are these?

Sorry to much time on a 40K nid forum.

MC - Monstrous creature (carnifex and tyrant)

GC - Gargantium creature (FW super heavy nids)

IB - instintive behaviour, the thing that makes nids run away.

_________________
Tyranid air marshal
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Jaldon
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:01 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother

Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:38 am
Posts: 720
Location: Utah, pick a Pacific Island the other half of the year.
- Why don't the Bio-Titans get the "weapons may fire all round due to the Titan's exceptional maneuverability", just like the Eldar Titans? They do seem very agile and maneuverable, don't they?


It is the Bio-Titan's Long Legs that make it agile, the weapon mountings (On a living creature :O  Jaldon can't you think of a better word) are still relatively fixed. Eldar Titans are not only very agile they also have very flexible weapon mountings AND the crews were literally raised with the Titan they command.

Also, most of you seem to agree that the Malefactor is more attractive than the Haruspex: how about lowering the Malefactor's FF value to 5+?


Not a bad idea to try to keep possible firepower up, while keeping possible costs down.

I'm hoping that the fearless on hierophant is a mistake

I can only blame my pain killers :cool: , it has been removed.

Tunneling Trygon, I am begining to like this idea, but I am failing to see how to make it work without making the Trygon an independent, which I do not want to do.

Thanks All.......

Jaldon :p

_________________
Brave sir Robin, when danger reared its ugly head he bravely turned his tail and fled, Brave sir Robin.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:15 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20887
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
Tunneling Trygon, I am begining to like this idea, but I am failing to see how to make it work without making the Trygon an independent, which I do not want to do.


Give Trygons a Note that allows them to go Synapse-free on the turn the arrive? (Act as independent formation).

I'd also prefer to see Raveners gaining the same tunneling ability as Trygons, for a suitable points increase of course.

This would both help them be more differentiated in character from the other Brood creatures, and provide new tactical options.

It's a pity that there's no Background mentions of tunneling Synapse creatures or this would be an easy problem to solve (With a Tunneling formation that included its own Tunneling Hive Tyrant, all units in the formation would emerge at the same moment as their Hive Tyrant).

Perhaps Tunneling could be a third Variant of the Hive Tyrant? ie: Normal, Winged, & Tunneler.

That'd give the army a Tunneling Synapse, a Tunneling Brood unit, and a Tunneling WE.

Pretty much a mirror for the air units then.

_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Chroma
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:32 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:06 pm
Posts: 9684
Location: Montréal, QC, Canada

(Jaldon @ Nov. 04 2006,06:01)
QUOTE
Tunneling Trygon, I am begining to like this idea, but I am failing to see how to make it work without making the Trygon an independent, which I do not want to do.

For simplicity's sake and to avoid another special rule, I feel infiltrator is enough of an ability to represent the "burrowing" of a Trygon or Ravener.

It lets you ignore ZoC of the target formation and lets you base who you want.  I really don't think there needs to be a new rule for it and it can be explained in the flavour text.

_________________
"EPIC: Total War" Lead Developer

Now living in Boston... any EPIC players want to meet up?
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Hojyn
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:11 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:52 am
Posts: 876
Location: Brest - France

(Jaldon @ Nov. 04 2006,06:01)
QUOTE
I'm hoping that the fearless on hierophant is a mistake


I can only blame my pain killers :cool: , it has been removed.

Actually, I thought Fearless made sense for the Hierophant. All other Tyranid WE have it, why would the Hierophant be the only one that's not Fearless?

That would certainly make it more expensive, but it also seems more logical. Well, to me at least.

Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Hojyn
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:06 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:52 am
Posts: 876
Location: Brest - France

(Hena @ Nov. 05 2006,19:27)
QUOTE
I would remove fearless from hierodules and trygon. Possibly leave it on trygon, but definitely off from hierodules.

Actually, that would be more logical, since the Hierodule and Trygon are brood creatures and thus more likely to get confused.

But I really think the Hierophant, as an independant Bio-Titan, should be Fearless.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
ragnarok
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:44 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:43 pm
Posts: 2084
Location: Reading, England
I think it should have fearless.

It makes less sense that the smaller creatures have it and he doesn't.  It is also described, like the carnifex, as a line breaker.  Designed to charge forwards absorbing the enemies fire, before crashing into their lines and destroying them.

It can't do this if it suffers hack down hits.

Finally,upping its cost to give it fearless will make the bio titan horde harder to use.  I've sickened my regular opponent by using two heirophants two heirodules (one of each) and a dominatrix in 3K.

_________________
Tyranid air marshal
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:53 am 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20887
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
Just to reiterate, I'm also on the side of giving the Heirophant Fearless.

_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Lightbringer
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:36 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:09 am
Posts: 276
I'm liking most of these suggestions but have a thought on the Trygon tunneling issue.

How about giving it teleport but keeping it as a brood creature? This way the Trygon can seemingly appear out of nowhere but must still end the turn within synapse range.

I'm not for introducing any new special tunneling rules.

Lightbringer
:cool:

_________________
Overseer Lightbringer II
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Evil and Chaos
 Post subject: New WE/AV Proposed Stats
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:41 pm 
Brood Brother
Brood Brother
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 2:57 am
Posts: 20887
Location: Harrogate, Yorkshire
How about giving it teleport but keeping it as a brood creature? This way the Trygon can seemingly appear out of nowhere but must still end the turn within synapse range.


I suggested this a couple of months back... it was generally disliked, and Jaldon himself specifically veto'd it.

I'm not for introducing any new special tunneling rules.

The Tunneling special rule is at least found in the main rulebook, and so it wouldn't be an extra army-specific rule at least.

_________________
Currently doing a plastic scenery kickstarter
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 4
  [ 50 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB ® Forum Software © phpBB Group
CoDFaction Style by Daniel St. Jules of Gamexe.net