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Epic:A RTT, Northern Virginia, 17.April.04
Shadow Hunter	Post subject: Epic:A RTT, Northern Virginia, 17.April.04 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:36 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:41 am Posts: 1747 Location: Norton Canes, Cannock, Staffs, UK	*phew* is it getting hot in here?   Some good points periodic, The MW5+ BoC was taken straight from JJ Black Legion list.  In there he gives the LoC that power with those stats. I guess its for game balance.  I know its stats are slightly worse than a Lascannon, but I suppose they need that stat line as they lack those sort of weapons otherwise.  Also, it would probably incorperate the fact that sorcerers can use Thralls, which allows them to shoot the power up to 4 times. Including Magnus would be really cool.  He was in the previous Epics wasn't he? What was he like then?
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nealhunt	Post subject: Epic:A RTT, Northern Virginia, 17.April.04 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 5:01 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	>> Ooh ooh, me likey alot... Minus a few spelling errors... Thanks. I didn't do a hard edit on it, because it is a draft. >> Are you sure that the bolt of change warrants a MW5+?

You have a point. That's the BoC stat from Jervis's Black Legion list, as Shadow Hunter mentioned. While it might not be perfectly in line with 40K, I do like the effect.

>> Why not make the the sorceror a character upgrade that can be purchased for every 2 of something?

This was to line up with 40K. Basically a TSons army gets its' commanders/sorcerers for free. Also, to align with the background fluff, the Rubric TSons are automatons that take quite a bit of management. Either way, rules or fluff, there will virtually always be sorcerers present.

>> The Disc Riders detachments seem a little assault oriented... just guys with cloaks and a bolter.

Again, lining up with the more recent 40K stuff. The discs add attacks in HTH. Also, the only way to field disc riders are as Chosen. They are all sorcerers, but the majority of psychic powers are 40k-scale stuff, rather than BoC level heavy weapons substitutes. That translates into strong assault. They could arguably have a higher firefight score, though, now that I think about it.

>> It'd be cool if you worked in a way to throw in a daemon prince. I wanna break out Magnus and his EYE BEAM OF DEATH +4. >>Perhaps a 'council of sorcerors' formation would be cool.

Heh. I think including a daemon prince as an alternate to the sorcerer lord would be fine, but I dislike the idea of taking Magnus himself for the same reason I dislike Ragnar Blackmane or Gazhkull Thraka or other characters. They are one person in a battle of potentially millions.

I like the Council of Sorcerers idea. It would match up with a Sorcerer Lord and Chosen Retinue in 40K. Rather than a separate formation, though, I think it would be a good upgrade. Something like 2 stands, BoC for each, high CC/FF, and the expectation that the Character upgrade for the formation would be used on one of them.

Great feedback.?Please give me a bit of time to think on it...