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Looking for Ork Advice
MaksimSmelchak	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:39 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA	How do you think Gargants should look? We've been discussing Gargants on other forum threads and a number of ideas have surfaced, particularly concerning Gargant propulsion. Some like the current set of legs, others want bigger more feasible legs, and even others prefer tracked caterpillar units. How should Gargants be propelled? How about armament? Which sorts of weapons and in what quantity should a Gargant be armed? Current Gargant (or Gargant-like vehicles) include: - The Stompa - The Mekboy Gargant - The Gargant or Slasha Gargant - The Great Gargant - The Mega Gargant Are other types of Gargants or Gargants with specialized missions needed / desired? How about miniatures? What is your favorite (or favorites for that matter) Gargant? Shalom, Maksim-Smelchak. _________________ 6mm Sci-fi: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/6mm ... nWarGames/ My Personal Blog: http://6mm-minis.blogspot.com/
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stormseer	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:53 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:52 pm Posts: 4598 Location: Suffolk, UK.	Personally I am not too unhappy with the current "look" of Gargants- I think that their propulsion is kinda feasable- I imagine them to move in a similar way to the huge dragline mining machines used in strip mining... Regarding models, I think that all the Gargants are pretty cool, excluding the Mega Gargant *ick* -I can't see why people dislike the newer angular design, tho they should be made more modular like the old ones... _________________ www.darkrealmminiatures.com
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Legion 4	Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:54 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36984 Location: Ohio - USA	Well even though, Gargants are supposed to be in the image of Gork & Mork, their feral Gods, I think they all should be on Tracks. That includes Stompers, too. ? However, I've never done any conversions like that just because the models are so "Orky." And G/W has a tendency to make the "Green Skins" a bit "cartoony" IMO... ? Of course, the whole "Walker" concept is a bit over-the-top for me. I'd like to see more wheeled models too. But it is Sci-Fi after all, so I'm willing to "go with it"... And I keep my Walkers at a minimum... ? _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: Looking for Ork Advice Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 5:05 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

I've got to run some errands today and get out the door, but... I did author this thread so I'll respond. How do you think Gargants should look? The most inspiring thing about Orks for me is their trashy modifed look, which lends them to converting. I really love this! So, any Orky vehicle is fine with me as long as it looks possible by sci-fi standards. Lots of panels, bailing wire, soddered ends, jury-rigged equipment and the like make a good Gargant in my opinion. Of course, Gargants still need the tribal look too so lots of metal cut-out teeth and pointy parts as well! How should Gargants be propelled?

Legs would be the most popular form of propulsion, but wheels and tracks would be close seconds and thirds. Even multiple legs would be possible. I think there's room for all kinds of propulsion for a Gargant although the Stompas and Mekboy Gargants definitely have legs that look too small for their bodies (They even look too small to waddle!).

I always imagined that the original Gargants (the Slasha and Great Gargant) had legs that folded under the carapaces when they stopped to shoot instead of being like waddling sneakers. I don't mean huge long folding legs, but big enouhg to get a sort of waddling gait that would move Gargants at a reasonable speed.

How about armament? Which sorts of weapons and in what quantity should a Gargant be armed?

Gargants have always gotten a cheap deal in this category in my view of them. Imperial titans should, of course, have more high-tech armament, but I imagine a Gargant like an 18th century sailing ship with huge broadsides.

Gargants should also have more options for armament. SupaGun and SupaZap gun are fine for general categories, but what about more special things like flame guns, Lifta-Droppas, and the like? Classifying all these "mad scientist" weapons as a SupaZap gun is disappointing. I'd also like to see Gargants be able to switch out their shoulder bastions for Flak Gunz. I see Gargants as having a real need for Flak weapons as Titans, superheavies, artillary and airpower would be their biggest foes. Regular armor can be threatening, but much less so.

Are other types of Gargants or Gargants with specialized missions needed / desired?

I definitely think that specialized kinds of Gargants would be possible. I've always pictured an artillary Gargant so the Orks can get back at the Imperials. I can imagine it loaded down with long range Supagunz and screaming Orks swarming over its' exterior. "Take Dat, Humies!"

How about miniatures? What is your favorite (or favorites for that matter) Gargant?

I'd have to say I have multiple favorites:

- All of the Stompa makes including the 40k RuntBot
- The original AT-1 Great Gargant as well as the slightly modifed recast made for SM-2 / TL.
- The MegaGargant

MegaGargant! Maksim, are you crazy?

NO, I just like the model and while I can agree that the model has lame rounded edges and looks a little weeble-wobbley, I think it really catches the Orky spirit with multiple gun decks and mechanical monstrosities sticking out of the hull at every location. Plus, as a plastic model, it is a snap to customize or part out for other custom jobs. Of course, I like the fact that many other people dislike this model, I'll snap up as many as I can to use for parts on my customizations.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.