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How to use Warlord Titans?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:46 am 
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Jervis has placed a file in the playtest vault for people to try and playtest.

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He thought we should have fun even though these rules may never become official.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:20 am 
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I'm using a Warlord in games of 4000+ pts., but I don't think I've quite figured out how to get the most out of it.  (I field it cause it's really cool, but I could make it work for me, then all the better).

My thoughts for its use include:
1) turn guns on enemy tanks
2) use to hold objectives on my side of the board (too far to run to get to oppenents side)
3) double move often
4) move to within 15 cm of a formation I want to engage with another unit.

Issues I have with it:
1) sooo slow!  hard to get him where you need him
2) could use longer gun ranges...see issue 1
3) can only target one formation with shooting attacks, sometimes overkill (but not the way mine performs)

Have any of you got some good tips on Titan use?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:38 am 
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With regards to your "issues" with the Warlord, remember that JJ increased the range of the TLD and GB to 60cm.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:37 pm 
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Really?  I've just been using the stats from the rule book.  Long range guns make sooo much more sense!

Ummm, where should I have looked to learn this?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:55 pm 
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It will become official when the rules update occurs (if it hasnt happened already).

Are you using the warlord in a space marine army or in an imperial guard army?

Havent used them with Guard, but with marines, i have found the warlord to be too slow to be much use - although they do have a nice a psyche-out effect.  

Personally, i use warhounds as they are quick enough to keep up with my troops and they are far more flexible.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:10 am 
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If you are going to use a Warlord, IG or SM, and even if you do use the increased ranged weapons, then may I offer some of the following suggestions.

(1) Deploy it in the exact center of your deployment zone, 15cms up from the edge.
(From here it can easily move into either flank as needed, or better yet follow into number two below)

(2) March it on the first turn up to the exact center of the table.
(From this position it covers 1/2 to 3/4 of the battle area making it real difficult for an opponent to avoid. Also it can quickly move into either flank as needed. It is best if you let the enemy commit themselves first before re-deploying into a flank.)

(3) It is best placed at the junction of two of your formations.
(In this position it will get to use all of it's combat power in support of these two formations. Any attack on these two formations is going to fall into the Warlords sphere of influence.)

(4) Use it offensively, it is a waste of the investment in points to use it defensively.
(No opponent worth their salt is going to place their Take & Holds close enough to each other, or the Blitz, to make it possible for the Warlord to claim two of them defensively. Also no opponent is going to just waltz up to the thing, and if it is standing still, then they can easily avoid it. Offensive is the forte' of the Warlord, or don't get one.)

In my case I use it at the junction of two formations, and then the three of them move directly on the enemy objectives daring them to try and stop them. It forces the enemy to come out and play or lose the battle. Do not underestimate the firepower/combat power of this WE, not to mention the psyhc power, so use it, or lose it

Hope this helps,

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:48 pm 
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Thanks Jaldon,
That was some sound tactical advice.  I think I should place my Take and Holds as close to my table side as possibel....and just hope they garrison them!

I'd also like to try dropping terminators down on the far side of an intended target to get some nice crossfire from the Titan, before useing them to assult (they should still be in range as casualties will come from the opposite side of the formation)  Note to self:  as always, make sure terminators have a choice of targets less the unit break from Warlord's fire.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:11 pm 
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For the most part I agree with Jaldon.

You can't use them defensively in the basic lists because babysitting objectives makes it too easy for the enemy to completely avoid your weapons fire.

Warlords limit you to 2 possible strategies.  You can either take them straight up the middle with lots of support or you can give them minimal support and let them hold the middle while you hit a flank with the main body of troops.

You will need to either sacrifice a turn of fire to move into position (marching as Jaldon said) or count on frequent double moves.

Personally, I prefer the double moves.  I would rather take weaker shots _right_now_ than wait for a (hopefully) better shot later in most cases.  With a relatively small area for the enemy to avoid, the Warlord can't count on getting its fire if the enemy reacts successfully.

While you take a -1 for doubling, with a TK2+ and 8 shots that are AT3+ if you get sights on an armor formation, the -1 penalty affects your fire far less than it would an ordinary formation.

Also, I think it's important to get as much firepower out of titans as possible.  I definitely do my best to get into FF range to support an assault from another formation.  If you march, you cannot supply supporting fire so again, I think that favors double moves.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:48 pm 
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I have a Warlord Titan, and I use it as a offensive weapon. I usually double move, as its great anti-tank weaponry isn't that affected by the +1 to hit. I double move it right up the middle and cause as much havoc as possible. My usual opponent tries to counter my titan by putting scouts and tactical units in its way to slow it down and waste the firepower of the titan.

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