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The increasing power of aircraft
nealhunt	Post subject: The increasing power of aircraft Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:34 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	So how does this get back to Epic?  In a larger game, that means the player should guess the relative amount o flak going to be present and use his lander smartly somewhere on the flank where th AAA will be minimised, or not take it at all.  It is a vulnerability of the platform that the player needs to incorporate into his tactics. In fact, I think a lot of people have begun to do so.  I know I have.  The "Banzai" air assault is very effective and therefore quite tempting but I've found that in many cases an outlying or flanking formation works almost as well while allowing much greater preservation of the air assault force. This conservation seems especially true of Marine players.  I typically see Thawk loads of Assault/Dev or all Dev.  A flanking assault can kill a small formation, provide crossfire, allow the aircraft to take off and provide future support and still leave an effective formation on the ground.  It's nowhere near as flashy as the occasional SHT/Arty intermingled assault target, but the aggregate effect is probably equivalent while maintaining more tactical flexibility. Then again, the Banzai attack is so much more Orky... ...sometimes you just have to do it. _________________ Neal

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Legion 4	Post subject: The increasing power of aircraft Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:49 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:13 pm Posts: 36984 Location: Ohio - USA	Good points, Guys ! Definitely some things to think about ... I agree, that we don't need to make aircraft a very detailed subsystem ... ?In Epic, I generally think we need to stay away from "the F/W IG Syndrome" ... a dozen different versions of the same thing ! ?We're limiting most of our AFV types, for example to one or two. Like the Leman Russ ... if it has a long barrel, it's a Standard L/Russ ... if short, it's a Demolisher. ? ?Aircraft types too, maybe ?two versions of the Lightening, T-Bolt and Marauder ... based on the model ... ?Neal's point values sounds good ... or at least reasonable ... ?   And Tas's points about Landing Craft/Forced Entry are valid also ... You have to "be smart" about landings, whether with Drop Pods/Ships etc.  It's easy to lose your assault force if you're not careful !   _________________ Legion 4 "Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War !" ... "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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Post subject: The increasing power of aircraft Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:12 am

Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW

Quote (nealhunt @ 21 2005 July,22:34) So how does this get back to Epic? ?In a larger game, that means the player should guess the relative amount o flak going to be present and use his lander smartly somewhere on the flank where th AAA will be minimised, or not take it at all. ?It is a vulnerability of the platform that the player needs to incorporate into his tactics. In fact, I think a lot of people have begun to do so. ?I know I have. ? Great! I really like it when real world stuff proves true on the tabel.  It shows that you have a solid set of rules It's nowhere near as flashy as the occasional SHT/Arty intermingled assault target, but the aggregate effect is probably equivalent while maintaining more tactical flexibility.

The SM air mobile attack is faster, more accurate and leave a "High Guard" available.

You are right - Its not as sexy in terms of weight of metal.  But it is a much more tactically elegant move!  And frustrating when you see it happen to you and you cant do a thing about it.  

Then again, the Banzai attack is so much more Orky... ...sometimes you just have to do it.

True. Thats what the Japanese and Russians thought too!  

Good dialogue - thanks!