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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:48 pm 
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What scale is Slaughterloo? And who produces it?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:07 pm 
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Many good points here and I have dabbled in Napoleonics before witha ?friend who has a large collection of forces and found it quite fun.  Compared to my more frequent ww2 and later gaming the difficulties in troop control and communication is challenging

Remember that the Napoleonic Wars were World War 0.5 in that it encompassed all of the 'civillised world' at the time (damned colonials dont count there) and there were major revolutions in strategy during the period. ?It was also the start of proper combined arms ops with Naval raids etc being staged.

Yes the history is very interesting and in of itself is a major area of study

L4's point about it not being perosnal is very important too- While countrymen of the protagonists feel somewhat involved (look at how much the English and French still love eachother!) there is not residual perosnal involvment or loss.

There are many, many other wars of equal interest. ?I have always found the Franco-Prussian War of 1870/71 intriguing - the first use of priomitive machien guns (the Mitralleuse sp?), revolutionary rifles, and two very different tactical methods. ?French colonial wars, 7 years war, are also very interesting. ?But unless you can get a group who are ALL interetsed in a period AND can get the figs you want then it wont be a major focus.

I quite like WW1 too, but my attempts at gaming it have all too often been just like the Black Adder episode whgere Field Marshall Haig dustpans the troops off his terrain as the vast casualties mount. ?All too realistic in its simulation too.

Ive had lots of fun playing colonial games on the North-West Frontier and in Zululand too!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:51 pm 
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Quote (vanvlak @ 13 2005 June,14:48)
What scale is Slaughterloo? And who produces it? And where can you order it from? (Sound of $ again...)

Slaughterloo is 28mm. It is produced by Alternative Armies. Their website is not the greatest but see sitemap.

Check FLINTLOQUE/SLAUGHTERLOO GAMES + SCENARIOS and and the army links below it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:57 pm 
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I remember that Adder episode well ... funny, ironic and tragic ...  And all my IG Rgts are numbered after units I served in ... so I still try not to "waste" them ! :;):

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:42 pm 
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Quote (vanvlak @ 13 2005 June,14:48)
What scale is Slaughterloo? And who produces it? And where can you order it from? (Sound of $ again...)

Slaughterloo is 28mm. It is produced by Alternative Armies. Their website is not the greatest but see sitemap.

Check FLINTLOQUE/SLAUGHTERLOO GAMES + SCENARIOS and and the army links below it.

Thanks Mojarn.  :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:30 pm 
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Quote (Mojarn Piett @ 13 2005 June,14:40)
Actually I have yet to get started. ?:blush: ?I have several Ferach figures for Flintloque plus some werewolves but that's all for the moment.

I am trying to make up my mind between Ferach and Krautia. The undead are tempting too.

Hi Mojarn

I have to say that I thought the Ferach were some of the prettiest figures I had ever seen. Of all of the Slaughterloo races Elves in Napoleonic French uniforms looked the most stunning.

You might ask why I did n't pick them then... Well by the time I got into the game (other members of gaming club had been playtesters for Alternative Armies and so had played it before it's commercial release) 3 other club members had already got some Ferach figures and none had yet claimed the poor dogs.

Even though I am a cat person I still could n't face leaving the poor mutts with noone to field them on battlefield! :blush:
Plus IF I ever did get actual historical Napoleonic figures then I would have to get French.

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Quote (vanvlak @ 13 2005 June,16:42)
Quote (Mojarn Piett @ 13 2005 June,16:51)
Quote (vanvlak @ 13 2005 June,14:48)
What scale is Slaughterloo? And who produces it? And where can you order it from? (Sound of $ again...)

Slaughterloo is 28mm. It is produced by Alternative Armies. Their website is not the greatest but see sitemap.

Check FLINTLOQUE/SLAUGHTERLOO GAMES + SCENARIOS and and the army links below it.

Thanks Mojarn. ?:D

And so it begins.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:37 pm 
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Well what can I add here that hasn't already been said...

For me, a very advid Nappies player (Sorry Primach I'm one of the crazy people... :p) ?alot of it has to do with the history.

It is a fascinating period rich in color, drama, and literarly Empires at arms. ?When you read the stories of the armies and the personalilities it is some really amazing stuff.

At the same time it is a facinating period to wargame because of the real balance between the different combat arms.  Their is a balance between horse, artillery, and infantry.  Sucessful tactics depends on proper employment of all three and that is really hard to achieve.  But very statisfying when it is done.

Lastly the most important
Because it a whole lot of fun to be a annoyaing French player because in this era their lead by an Corsisan and they are the best. ?Vive France!!!! ?:p






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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:20 pm 
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I don't know if people realise but I do have a Flintloque section on my website.

http://www.ifelix.co.uk/phoflint.html

Sadly I have not updated it in ages, but I keep meaning to paint some more figures at some point.




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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:41 pm 
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Jimbo,

I did not know, thanks for pointing it out. I will have to trip on over and explore some more of the Non-Epic stuff at your site.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:44 am 
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Quote (primarch @ 12 2005 June,17:58)
According to most polls or sales data (which admittedly was back when I retailed) WWII is number one in the historicals department with American Civil War as a strong contender. Heck look at FoW!

Interesting, this did not seem to be the case based on the number of figures I see sold on ebay, nor by the tables at the local cons I attended in the last few year. Maybe my observations are flawed.

Yes, FoW has added to the WWII level, I can see that on ebay, but not in the Historical nor Game conventions.

I also believe this might be a case of an American point of view vs. a European. ACW is popular amoung some clubs here, but is it a major era for the whole world of War Games? ????
I do not know, I am asking. ?:cool: ?

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Hi!

Actually according to some retailers conversation on some board (cant remember which), ACW is quite popular in britian, dont ask be why, I was really surprised by this.

I'm really "out of it" as far as retail contacts. Used to be very into such info and kept tabs on it.

I also recollect that sometimes what is seen at conventions and such may not accurately reflect what is being sold. These events usually attract more committed fans and leaves out a whole host of buying consumers that dont ever go to such events.

I'm going to look around and see what I can dig up. You have piqued my interest.  :)

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Quote (Jimbo @ 13 2005 June,05:04)
ACW is quite popular in the UK (and I guess Europe as well).

I suspect the main reason for the popularity of Napoleonics is down to the history of wargaming which for many people began with Kriegspiel for which the following article gives the history:

http://www.hmgs.org/history.htm

The reason I like Napoleonics (read actually I like Flintloque) was reading the Sharpe novels and seeing the TV series.

Hi!

Thanks for confirming my recollections. I always wondered why ACW would be popular in Europe, any insight on this?

In the way of Flintloque, that would be the ONLY nappy game I would play.  :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:28 am 
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I'm going to look around and see what I can dig up. You have piqued my interest. ?:)

I would be interested as well. As I said in my post, maybe my observations are flawed for some reason.

In any case, the Historical Market does seem to be dominated by the ones we have spoken about. WWII, Napies, ACW, all seem to be big on the net.

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Hi!

I remember one magazine for retailers that gave sales figures. I'm straining to remember the darn name. It was pretty good giving relative sales increases and decreases from month to month.

Now you REALLY have me curious.

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OK, for fun, I went to TMP and looked at the Polls section (well the first page) and there was one poll about "What era do you play in 25/28mm?"

#1 19th Century
#2 WWII
#3 Medieval

ACW nor Nappie show up in the top five.

Interesting... ???

This is fun. :laugh:

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