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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:25 am 
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I third it!
Wow - incredible stuf, Drasannar, BETTER than GW! :D :D :D

Glad to see you have a degree of cat control - Sepecat, Tippex, Dactyl, Macule, Random, Cathode and Fox send their regards to Loki, who sounds like someone who would be much approved by them!  :D

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:58 am 
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and fourth it, both for casting and inclusion.....can you provide a couple of companies worth, pretty please :D
Well it seems I'm completly blown out now :laugh: , back to the doghouse for me.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:30 pm 
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:O :O :O

Simply amazing!
Now, if it is possible to cast those... :cool: :cool:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:47 am 
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Well theres lots of things i have seen on various modeling boards. However this well and truely earns the award for most staggering thing to see.

I have found some thing i want to aspire to, any tips? what kind of tools do you use?

Thanks for sharing this with us, keep up the amazing work

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:19 am 
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PROGRESS REPORT, DAY 4:

First of all, thanks for all the nice comments. A craftsman is always pleased to hear his work is appreciated :-:.

As for casting, well technically it should be possible. By that I mean the minature doesn't have any severe undercuts (at least as long as I keep it in 3 parts: bolter, backpack, main body - otherwise there would be undercuts and casting would incur severe loss of detail, as in most epic minis).

However there are two problems:

First: I haven't used my casting supplies (resin and RTV rubber, that is) for about a year, and I think that is about their opened shelf life. Which means (unless they are as resilient to the passing of time as my batch of Green Stuff seems to be, which I will try out one of these days) that I will have to procure Resin and rubber, which might a problem since I only know of one shop in my vicinity that sells casting supplies, and to be honest their stuff looks considerably cheaper (not in the monetary sense, mind you) than what I currently have (which was bought at Tiranti's crafts and arts store in London [EDIT: to explain: I live in Germany, not in the UK]). And what I currently have is already of a noticably lower quality than what Forgeworld use in their models.
Still, this is "only" a technical problem.

The other one is more fundamental, and should be fairly obvious, and means that at least organizing it via this open forum might not be such a bright idea, if such an abominable thing were to be undertaken :cool:. Unless casting and distributing without profit and strictly for private use is not covered by intellectual property.

Now for the progress report proper:
(pics attached)

Today was pretty much like tuesday, in that I overlept despite best intentions to the contrary, did some university work and also had to drive to town to buy food and stuff, so as a result I only started work in the evening. Still, again just like tuesday, I made pretty good progress. I have a theory that the amount of work I et done is indeed negatively correlated with the amount of time I spend on it. I might test this proposition tomorrow by not doing *anything* at all and checking in the vening whether the mini is finshed. Then again, trying something more conventional, such as *work* might be better, I don't know.

What I did today was work on the main body and the backpack.

The main body is not yet finished, but it's definitely on it's way. I finished the basic shape of the shoulder pads. Now they only need some more sanding and the detail work, which will be a fleur-de-lys on one, and an eagle on the other (and there are those small studs/rivets/whatever; as a matter of fact those cover the rim of the cloth parts as well and will be *hell* to do, I suppose, as well as BORING).

The rebreather tubes (or power cables, or whatever) are also still missing, but at least I've done the plate to which they will be connected, and which will be covered by a skull.

As for the fleur-de-lys on the knee, I decided to leave it as is, I just filed a little bit of on the extreme right, so that it doesn't look quite as "stuck on" from a diagonal view.

I've also finally taken a picture of the backpack, since I changed the position of the "handle" attached to it for working. I must say so far this is the part I'm the most proud of, not least because of the fleur-de-lys (which is my third try by the way, the other two were too broad. This one only has slightly chubby tendencies, which is fine with me :-)). It is mostly finished, only the small studs on the extremities of the "T-bar" are missing, and there is some filling to do on the sides, mostly from behind.

That's it for today's progress report. Tomorrow will hopefully see a mostly finished sister, with only touching up to do, though I can't guarantee that yet.

@Vanvlak: My cat control by the way was not quite as thorough as I hoped. Today I let the door slightly open, and as I was sitting at the computer desk, with my back to my working area I suddenly heard a thumping sound behind me. I turned to see Loki standing *on the table*, right *between* all the small parts :O.
Fortunately nothing serious happened, but the cat got banished from the house to cool down it's attitude in the snow.


Oh before I forget it: Do you mean the "Inner Circle" of people who have lost their eyesight while working on small pieces of putty ? :-)


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Drasannar

P.S. I am thinking of an idea for a new sculpting project, but I am rather too tired to talk about it now, will do so tomorrow :-)

P.P.S.: Doc, I just read your post while previewing my reply:
I can't say much now, but I'll try to say something about the tools etc. either tomorrow, or (more likely) after I'm finished. But rest assured it's all rather easy to obtain ( it has to be, since otherwise I probably wouldn't *have* it in this godforsaken place :-))





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Fantastic, just amazing fine detail....

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Unbelievably fine work.  :O  You are fast approaching Forge World standards.  :O  :cool:

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And I third it ;), honoury membership is a must!

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Weep, so good, can't wait to see this one finished....and the next started.

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Have you thought about approaching Forge World with this. There may be a career there for you. Incredible.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:17 pm 
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Hi!

Drassanar, the inner circle is a group we formed.

I dont want to discuss the particulars here, but please e-mail me at:

primarch@caribe.net

I will give you the full account of what its about and you can see of you are interested.

Hope to hear from you soon

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:13 am 
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PROGRESS REPORT, DAY 5:

Well, today was a black day as far as completion of this project is concerned.

First of all I had to spend the better (or rather worse) part of the morning running from one department of the University to another to collect my exam results, some of which (contrary to announcement) weren't even finished yet...*sigh*... what this means is that I didn't get to start working until after lunch. I also had to stop rather early, since I went out for dinner with a friend of mine. "Yes", you will probably say, "the guy who wanted to lend Drasannar his digicam. Well at least he got that, so we will see some high-resolution pics of the mini, yeah !"
Well, to cut a long story short, he forgot the camera, even though I phoned him *twice* to remind him of it, the last time on wednesday evening... well, I suppose it was my fault for not reminding him again an hour before we met. After all who was I to assume he'd mastered the intricate art of making a [CENSORED] *note*.
Well, I will pay him a visit on monday to get it and will probably be able to keep it for the entire week, so there's at least a silver lining on the horizon...

So, what did I actually get done in the time I *did* have?

On the positive side I finished the backpack, it only needs some slight cleaning up with a file, but that's it. A picture is attached. I am quite satisfied with the way those studs on the ends of the "T-bar" came out. They were quite fiddly to do, and still require some slight sanding, but otherwise I'm satisfied with the result.

One *could* say that the bolter is finished, except that I'm probably going to shave of most of the ammo clip and resculpt it. The reason is that the cartridges I added look like they are protruding from the  sides of the clip, while in fact they should only be visible in that sideways slit. Now this is due to a methodological error: I did the clip first and added the cartridges later, trying to fit them into the space I'd left for them. Of course that failed miserably (mostly since none of my needles were thin/sharp enough to properly reach in there. So I will probably redo it the other way around, building the clip around the catridges.

What else did I get done?
Not much :
I wrote yesterday that it was possible for me to finish the mini today - well, it *was* before I fell into one of two traps that you (or at least I) encounter whenever you (or at least I) are  in the later stages of finishing a sculpt.

You are prone to either get sloppy and rush things or to try to make everything perfect, you now want to smooth everything, correct small misshapen parts etc. Well, I fell into the latter trap with the shoulder pads.
At first they looked really good shape wise, but I found them too wide.... In the end I reworked them 3 times. Now I have added the insignia on both , but I am close to scrapping both again [this is why I haven't included any pics of them, I am fairly certain they wil be changed again].

As a result I didnt get to do the arms and some other (minor) details still missing.

Oh, on top of it all I seem to have lost the crucifix, so unless I get *really* lucky (it's less than 1,5mm long...) I will have to do it again :-(.

Finally an announcement for the weekend: I will not be able to do any substantial work, since I have to rework a draft for a research project for university. This is rather important, since it is the first step in getting a shot at an overseas scholarship. I have to submit it on tuesday at the latest, and I still have to sift through about 40 pages of handwritten notes on several monographs before I can rework my original draft, which will again take several hours of work on the computer. I will probably not be able to start more than token work again before monday or tuesday evening, so expect my next progress report [effecitvely "Day 6"] on one of those days, wednesday at the latest.

However, to end this report on a positive note, there are a few more things I'd like to say:

First: I truly appreciate all your positive comments. As far as Forgeworld is concerned, reading those your encouragements I actually *did* consider sending them some work samples, once I have done some more sculpts of acceptable quality. Do any of you know, whether they employ people on a freelance basis? Or failing that, whether they take interns?

Second: I have drawn up some notes for a post on epic sculpting tools and tips, which I will post in a new thread sometime next week ( Or possibly the existing Green Stuff thread, though this is really not very very much about Green stuff as such, so I think I'd rather start a new one). I hope this will be helpful to those of you who are looking into epic sculpting.

Third: As for the next project, I am probably going to start this in two weeks or so. Inspired by the great FW Elysian range I am planning to do a multipart set of body parts, weapons and equipment to allow for the assembly of a variety of troops within a common theme. Now my original thought was to do an  Elysian line, but I want to put this to you, to see whether you have any other interesting proposals for the theme of such a set.


Well, so much (or little) for today, see you next week :) .

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:52 pm 
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Truly outstanding work. The smoothness of Your detail blows me away.

Having just quickly logged on whilst waiting for a flight home from france, I cant think of much to say other than that - its some of the best 6mm work I have seen.

Forgeworld do employ freelancers.

They should employ you.

Bottom line - I look forward with great anticipation to seeing more of your inspiring work!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:19 am 
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PROGRESS REPORT, WEEK 2:

It is done. :-)

But first of all, apologies for not posting on tuesday/ wednesday as promised. I wasn't able to do any but the most cursory work before friday due to the unfortunate interference of real life ™, in the form of university work (which took longer than expected, as it always does...) and social life.

I started working again on friday afternoon, and it took  me until late sunday afternoon - why you might  (rightly!) ask ? After all I posted that I was close to finishing last friday, with the arms being the only major parts left to do ...

Well, one might say there were some minor (hah...!) troubles:
-First of all, the left leg broke off and I had to repair it, and had to handle it more carefully afterward ("wounded in progress" pic included) .  

-Later the same leg broke off again, this time at the ankle (no pic, since at that time I seriously was *not any longer* in the mood to take pictures...).

-The crucifix (on her loincloth): This thing seriously hates me! You might remeber that I lost the first crucifix I had done. Now this one, like the first mostly made of plastic, melted at the ends while I  had the miniature under a lightbulb for faster curing .
Seriously, this is the first time that *ever *happened to me, it must have been just slightly closer to the lamp than usual...
Fortunately nothing happened to the tiny skull (made of Green Stuff), so I decided to snap the crucifix off to be able to reuse the middle part and save myself the trouble of sculpting such a fine piece of detail again.
Did that, placed the piece on the side, one hour later I turn to pick it up: it's gone, must have been my *breathing*, I don't know. I had lost it again (!)... and had to redo it from scratch - on the positive side, it looks better now in my opinion (though not better than the first one, unfortunately).

- The studs (on the shoulder pads, the robes and the gloves): I sculpted about half of them (which was quite some fiddly work, I can assure you !) before I decided that I couldn't really do them true to scale (unless I had spent about two days  - straight - on at, at the end of which you could have extracted my brain with a drinking straw through my ears). The way they were, they made the mini look really cluttered, so I took them off again (disturbingly, they also came off far too easily)

-And finally, this is the bummer. What is just about the worst nightmare if you are doing a multipart mini?
Right, the parts might not fit. Well, they didn't - more precisely, I had modelled the sleeves on the main body too far back, so that the bolter and the hand supporting it didn't meet ! So I had to carefully (!) cut  off the sleeves with  the finest razorblade I had. That done, I slowly rebuild them ,sep by step, comparing them with both arms, to make sure they would fit this time.

And now I'm finished. I have taken quite anumber of pictures with my friends digicam. Unfortunately it is only 3.2 megapixels, and the zoom is pretty weak. In addition to that, I had no no prior experienece worth mentioning with a digicam (nor photography in general), and I didn't have a tripod, so the slight shaking of my hands (even with the elbows braced on the table) makes for slightly blurry pics. All in all, the pictures have better resolution than the scans, however, not to mention that I was more flexible with choosing the perspective.

To make up for the long wait, I also took some shots of some other pieces that I thought might be of interest to you. I will make a separate post for them, since I can attach only one file, and both images are big enough as is.

So,here are the sister pics for you. I hope you like the finished result.

The shots under #1 are full body shots of the assembled mini from all angles. Please note that the parts are only held in place by small globs of the sticky yellow partof Green Stuff, so it doesn't quite look like glued on, since this adds some space betweeen the parts thus joined. I also only noticed when seeing the photos, that the right hand (gripping the bolter) is attached too low to the sleeve, the proportions look rather starnge this way ;-) (they are not perfect anyway, but this makes it much worse than it actually is, trust me).

Pay attention to the two skulls which you haven't seen yet, one on the crucifix, the other on the rebreather (or whatever that thing is). I also did a frag grenade which is visible on the back shot. Finally, I resculpted the bolter magazine, as I announced, and I think it looks much closer to the original now.

#2 shows some shots of the main body alone. Even though the pics are a little blurry you might be able to make out the fleur de lys and the eagle on the right and left shoulders respectively, as well as the skulls and the grenade again.

#3 shows some images of the other parts;not much to comment here, except that you might now see, why I said I preferred the bolter from the left side.

#4 wounded in progress...very blurry, to get this past the censors, as it is quite gruesome to behold ;-)

Finally, self critique:
There are a few things I am not quite satisfied with in the finished miniature, and which I ought to keep in mind next time.

-Mainly:the bolter and the backpack are too thick compared to the body.

-Also, the left hand doesn't really grip around the bolter, which is closely related to the above problem.

- I should have added some detail to the belt (e.g. buckle, more stuff), but I feared it would look cluttered.

-The right arm (left from the viewer) is a little strangely positioned. Also, both arms look a little too long, IMO.  I might yet cut off a little from the left arm, so that it goes farther into the sleeve, not yet sure.

Most of those problems are probably due to having worked on the individual pieces parallel, and not finished one of them (the body) first, so as to have one piece to compare to for the sake of proportion.

That's it. Not quite sure what to do next. However, whatever it will be, I have decided to set aside a few fixed hours each day for sculpting in the next few weeks, instead of spendind entire days just on sculpting at the cost of university work (or vice versa, for that matter).


Cheers,

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Amazing, simple amazing!

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