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The Return of Adeptus Titanicus

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:03 pm 
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I agree ... and with GW's 5th attempt at Epic going with 8mm. They really should allow the old 6mm and the new 8mm on the same table. But GW has done "odd" things before ... :o :eh

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I've heard a rumor that it might be out by Christmas. At this point I'm more interested in the rules than the models.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:29 pm 
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We're NOT the target for this game. Stop deluding yourselves ;)

I'll almost certainly buy it :-[ :-[ :-[

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:20 pm 
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Here is some more info from the comment section in case you missed it.

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It was James Hewitt I chatted to and he was willing to divulge quite a lot of information and was clearly excited on the topic (as was I!). I'm still recalling things as I managed to collar him for nearly 30 minutes! Allow me to expand a few points. Be advised that he was describing early playtest rules. He's only played it internally with 3 man team. He's currently frantically printing out paper models for an expanded playtest across GW. So bear that in mind:

Like previous Epic versions, it's currently an alternative activation system instead of UGOIGO

The plasma tracker
The plasma tracker was very interesting. Each Titan will have a certain amount of power they generate per turn. They then use the power to move, fire weapons, do damage control and repair voids. There's currently an overload mechanic whereby you can increase the power they generate to do additional actions. However, overtaxing the reactor carries risks, though he didn't expand on the risks.

Titan Datasheets
He described each Titan as having its own unit card with stats (move, turns etc.), plasma power tracker, damage track and weapon hard points. He seemed to be describing a hybrid of 1st Edition (weapon hard points, stats and refits) and 2nd Edition Titan datasheets (hit location and critical damage tables).

An expanded description of his playtest
He described a typical Warlord as having 4 inch movement and a single 90 degree turn. Warhounds having an 8 inch movement and could make two 90 degree turns. In his playtest, he described the final turn with only 1 Warlord facing off against 2 Warhounds, with everything else disabled or destroyed. One Warhound distracted him to the front, and took down the Warlords last remaining Voids. The Warlord then returned fire and blew it away. But, crucially, failed his reactor overload and was not able to take an additional turn to face the other, hidden, Warhound with his thicker frontal armour. This left his rear, and the vulnerable reactor housing, exposed and unshielded. On the Warhound’s turn, it moved out and fired on the rear of an unshielded Warlord and breached its reactor!

Machine Spirit Personalities
This is something that, as he described, was hinted at in the background but something that he'd like to explore within the game. I think ideas are still being developed, but he wanted to give Titan's their own personalities, for example the close-combat equipped Titan turning into a berserker. The idea being that you try to issue the Titan an order but the Machine Spirit, feeling more than a little rage as a result of doing far too much close combat and not having any rest, starts exerting its influencing on the Princeps! He mentioned that during campaigns, you'll want to rest Titans as they become mentally burnt out and start developing undesirable personalities.

Game types
He described the default game as Campaign games and used Necromunda as an example - you have a roster and for a game, you choose entries from your roster. Between games, you can apply for refits and your crews gain experience. Ejecting heads were mooted as an example of the Princeps and Moderatii being able to survive the destruction of their Titan. He described that, similar to Age of Sigmar, they're also planning to have an open play and competitive play option as well for those who just want to plop down some Titans and just have at it.

Background
He really wants to codify Titans. He's currently been scouring archives and has got a lot of material including Jes Goodwin’s ancient sketches.

The future
He got very excited when I mentioned Psi-Titans!
Imperator Titans would only appear if the game proves to be popular.
I asked about Banelord Titans and vehicles. Again, it's all about popularity.
However, he is writing the rules engine so that they are able to add in vehicles or infantry without requiring a whole new set of rules to be written. He described the jarring effect of Titans and Infantry needing two sets of rules in previous games and it's something that he definitely wants to avoid.



Personally, I'd feel better if FFG were writing the rules, but so far everything sounds like an evolution of the original Titanicus and it was a fun game to play! Also, Forge World does great work with mini designs, so updated miniatures is great news in my books. I am excited about this release and looking forward to seeing if it will be any good. I am a little worried that the rules will be a little clunky or unbalanced however.

For me buying in will hinge on the rules and minis. IF both are good I'm in. If one or the other sucks I'm out.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:57 pm 
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jimmyzimms wrote:
We're NOT the target for this game. Stop deluding yourselves ;)

Ditto ... ^-^

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:00 am 
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I too hope they stop making out that it's 8mm for any reason but invalidating existing players collections


Except for 20 years I've constantly heard about the desire for "true scale" titans and marines. Threads of some one modelling a true scale titan (making it larger) are always super popular. So I don't see a move to 8mm as invalidating anything until and unless they start making 8mm scale imp guard (sorry, Astra militarum), Eldar and Tau.

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Doesn't invalidate anything regardless. Just means more people with models.

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Hi!

Not interested in the models, but i am very interested in the rules.

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New rumors from battle bunnies

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- It's basically the new EPIC.

- It will be set during the Horus Heresy (for now). It's just easier to start with Titans vs Titans, and expand later on.

- It will be in 8mm scale. You will be able to make out power armour marks.

- Since all is done in CAD, they can release all titans done for AT also in 28mm scale if they prove to be liked.

- The reason the new Knight got upscaled was because of AT - they wanted to make him look distinguishable from the Questoris and Cerastus chassis. Oh, and he was originally meant to be the 'Warden'.

- They will start with titans, and will expand to tanks/flyers and infantry aswell as other races later. But that's still a while out.

- The first models will be Warhound/Reaver/Warlord aswell as Knights, done in resin.

- The starter box will be just a game set-up starter, without models (atleast that's what's planned for now). It will be done in plastic and be all about scenery and rules.

- They may do a nice Black Book version of the rules too, including propper background and lots of colour schemes!

- The planned release is the next Horus Heresy Weekender.

- They may do a 28mm scale Adeptus Titanicus battle at the next HH Weekender

Some rules bits - informations via Zedmeister, Dakka

- They're digging into all previous Epic games for inspiration, but it will be a new rule set.
- Expect Titans to have a plasma reactor power tracker to keep track of how much power they have.
- They'll be able to overload the reactor to boost power with a risk (Overload voids, increase speed, etc)
- Harpoons will be back but nowhere near as ridiculous as they used to be!
- Expect 2nd edition Epic orders and damage charts
- Expect 1st edition campaign and upgrade rules
- Engine war will be a bit of a slugfest, with Titans slowly blasting each other to Atoms, staggering about, weapons missing, systems burnt out, but still able to fight until you smash the legs, pulverise the MIU's or cause the reactor to go nuclear.
- Manourberability is key - the heavier the Titan, the slower they are. He described a play test where his final warlord was scragged when an enemy warhound got behind it and he didn't have enough power to overload the reactor to take more turns than they can
- Knights are objective grabbers and shield droppers, don't expect them to go toe to toe with Titans and survive
- Campaign games are the default mode of play, similar to Necromunda as he described it. With options for competitive and open play.
- Machine spirit personality will play a role. This sounded really exciting. Titans will pick up a personality the more used they are. So you could end up wth a Titan geared for close combat and have it turn into a bit of berserker which will have an effect of it becoming less controllable in battle. 'Resting' the Titan becomes an important choice to make. Yes, your Titan could end up with PTSD or worse...


http://battlebunnies.blogspot.com/2016/07/adeptus-titanicus-what-we-know-so-far.html



Hmmm...those rumors are quite juicy. Thanks for posting them. Excitement level and expectations on the rise a bit.

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Hi!

Not interested in the models, but i am very interested in the rules.

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I refuse to believe that.

Resin can kiss my furry... Oh, sorry. I'm less than thrilled at the prospect of huge resin monstrosities I meant to say. I went Epic because I like small models for painting, storing and playing. Definitely not the target audience. On the other hand. If the rules are good and separate from the miniatures I might pick them up for a laugh.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:51 pm 
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jimmyzimms wrote:
We're NOT the target for this game. Stop deluding yourselves ;)

Ditto ... ^-^


While I don't feel they're targeting Epic survivors for sales, I feel they're targeting us for further ghettoization. The act of releasing something at a different scale strikes me as a deliberate move to crap on the legacy.


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I'd like to think of us as "being considered" but honestly we're already out of mind. This entire release is more to the concept that FW is tapping into the zeitgeist where there's growing burnout and dissatisfaction in the 40k scene and something"new" like this is ripe for adoption. This is 100% targeting the larger scale brethren and if we buy, neat, but we rank below even a poke in the eye. FW, unlike GWplc, seems to understand a business fundamental, as 37signals eloquently put it, "cannibalize yourself"

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There is zero reason to adopt 8mm as a scale if they aren't considering 'us' at least somewhat. 8mm is a poor Cad choice between true epic scale battles and 40k scale heroic skirmish and 'differentiating power armour marks' is a really, really transparent reason (read, utter tripe) for doing it.

They do not want existing players to play this game without a total re-buy but still want to milk the current epic fanbase as best they can (hence the box without models rumour). It all suggests to me they don't have much confidence in this long-term but will wing and a prayer their products out there 'just in case'. I really doubt they're internally pitching this as anything more than a whizz-bang sales event. Nothing I've heard or seen enthuses me for what will come except as a possible rules repolish that can be used with existing models.

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Sorry but this is poor attempt at avoiding the plethora of existing 10mm lines, especially in relationship to scenery (which is huge) as well as trying to differentiate this product from the competition. The reason we don't matter is there's not enough of us TO matter. For instance, the entirety of Specialist Games sales were LESS than Bone White paint pots sold in GBP (Haestings). I fully agree that the excuses are transparent; The reasons for said excuses is what I disagree with.

Also, if you're trying to "force" repurchase, you don't release rules un-bundled from models.

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it remains to be seen what 8mm really means in actual measurements anyway, in terms of compatibility/avoiding competition etc

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