had a game last sunday using this list vs beelzemetz
he played black legion using following build (please correct me if i got something wrong, beelze).
Incompertus, 2990 POINTS
13TH BLACK CRUSADE BLACK LEGION (2014 Armybook Edition)
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RETINUE [425]
8 Chaos Space Marines, Daemonic Pact, Chaos Warlord (Supreme Commander), Obliterator, (Tzeentch)
RETINUE [340]
8 Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Lord, 4 Rhino, Daemonic Pact, (Tzeentch)
RETINUE [340]
8 Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Lord, 4 Rhino, Daemonic Pact, (Tzeentch)
CHAOS TERMINATORS [325]
Chaos Lord, 4 Chaos Terminator, Daemonic Pact, Icon Bearer, (Tzeentch)
CHAOS TERMINATORS [325]
Chaos Lord, 4 Chaos Terminator, Daemonic Pact, Icon Bearer, (Tzeentch)
CHOSEN [170]
4 Chaos Space Marine Scouts, Daemonic Pact, 2 Rhino, (Tzeentch)
HELL BLADES [200]
3 Hell Blade Fighters, (Chaos Undivided)
HELL TALONS [225]
2 Hell Talon Bombers, (Chaos Undivided)
DEATH WHEEL SQUADRON [275]
(Chaos Undivided), Death Wheel
DEATH WHEEL SQUADRON [275]
(Chaos Undivided), Death Wheel
DAEMON POOL [90]
(Chaos Undivided), 6 Lesser Daemon
my deathguard build was:
Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Death Guard (NetEA V0.2)
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DEATH GUARD RETINUE [400]
Lord of Pestilence (Supreme Commander), Chaos Spawn, 4 Plague Marines, 3 Havoc
DEATH GUARD RETINUE [500]
4 Plague Marines, 3 Havoc, 2 Dreadnought, Desecrator, Nurgle Sorcerer
DEATH GUARD RETINUE [450]
4 Plague Marines, 3 Havoc, Dreadnought, Desecrator, Nurgle Sorcerer
DEATH SHROUD TERMINATORS [400]
2 Death Shroud Terminator, Nurgle Sorcerer, 2 Grave Warden Terminator
BLIGHT DRONE SWARM [250]
5 Blight Drones
ARMOURED ASSAULT COMPANY [250]
6 Chaos Vindicators
PLAGUE ZOMBIE INFESTATION [175]
3+2D6 Plague Zombies
PLAGUE TOWER [300]
Plague Tower
FESTER TITAN [275]
The game ended a draw with 1:0 for black legion after 3 rounds. duew to time limitations we decided to skip round four. it was hard match seeing me facing seriously buffed (demons) terminator attacks which almost killed my bts of the table with only 1 survivor, as always super pesty deathwheels but on the other hand proved the stalwart caracter of the retinues. it was tough going to keep them in play and so i've been administering a couple of marshalls to them in order to keep the objectives on my half. the plaguetower (totally forgot to play it with 20cm move) and the fester titans were the actual matchwinners from my point of view. even though very short ranged and slow the fester titan proved to be invaluable to break and destroy his terminators which were buffed with hordes of demons. so he just claered the lines and didn't venture far into the oppents half. same goes for the plague tower mopping up retinues that came to close.
that disrupt really is brutal on broken formations. the grave wardens/deathshroud terminators performed really well fighting well in ff when i lost the strategy roll after teleporting them, passing every save and though losing the assault weres till in the bigger picter due to being fearless. next round i manged to get the into cc and they did what they do best, killing all of retinue at no own losses. the plague zombies were a bit of a bummer as i only rolled a 2 and a 1 summing up to 6 stands. still they managed to distract his chosen for two rounds and even killing a csm stand in cc. the vindicators prepped assaults more or less efficently and i was just moving them from rubble to rubble. the blight drones are a pure necessity with dg. the only source of real mobilty, even though a bit of a gamble to activat with 3+ when being blastmarkered. they killed of survivors in cover but did not add much damag wise. please leave them as AV. they are supposed to be resilent and the take an elite slot which wouldn't make up for much in my build but still are vital. i don't know what sense spamming them in an tournament would make because you definetly need your points elsewhere more.
the game was fun and actually felt like a deathguard army only long attrition evebtually seeing them grinded down. in the end i didn't have mus left on the table except for the we's terminators ad drones with his deathwheels threatening all objectives in my half and his aircraft without any opposition anymore. without fearless and most 3+ saves this game wuld have been a sad loss for me.
beelze is quite a good player who hardly makes any mistakes and it is alwys a challenge to battle him. i think he didn't viewd th dg list as op as it is but was sometimes complaining about my luck with the 3+ saves for the plaguemarines and an spectecular all dice hit with the fester titan on his broken terminator formation. ouch
cheers and keep up the good work! i enjoy the feeling of this list