This specific nid list build i think they are trying to balance ate the European championship 5-0-0.

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Speaking of which, if Mephiston has the results for the Euros I'd quite like to put them in my battle tracker.

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Yes, they deserve their own official list for sure!

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I agree to disagree but will say no more.

Meanwhile, let me use the stage time to make another plea for Yme-loc amends which are relatively straightforward and would bring that list as a viable option. There's another thread with lots of suggestions from myself and others around this. A few tweaks here and there and it's viable for sure.

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Yes yes yes yme loc please. It's so sad that the list is genuinely different but laughably unusable

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Sorry I changed the channel. Got bored of watching re-runs.

If you guys wanna change the list... well I guess you already did so don't need my blessing.

But the lack of playtesting changes or consultation seems absolutely ridiculous. The bottom line is you just made it an uncompetitive and unattractive army by destroying a viable build without creating the conditions for another viable build.

The horde swarm was not an auto win army. It actually takes skill and luck to play. The nid av heavy list just isnt viable. Units are expensive, easily broken and lack lustre. The initiative 1 and vulnerability of the sup comd plus negligible anti-air and next to no long range mw/tk firepower are risking options and are not rewarded in the current meta. All of the games i have won have come down to a few dice rolls with 50:50 chance to win or lose an engagement. It is high stakes exciting gaming.

Some of the comments i have recieved is "wow that really looks like a tyranid swarm"
Which i reply "tyranids arent actually real so how would you know what a swarm looks like? "

And "that's a thematic list- the expendable rule is tough but fitting"

To which i reply "yes it is fitting but sometimes it can chaff a little..."

Don't bother replying to my post, because it won't make one iota of difference.

Cheers
Jim

I'd be interested in seeing what list you have been using up to date.

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Tyranids

(Epic UK V.110929)

http://epic-uk.co.uk/wp/army-lists/

BIG ASSAULT SWARM [350]
4 Tyranid Warrior, 10 Termagant, 6 Hormaguant

BIG ASSAULT SWARM [350]
4 Tyranid Warrior, 10 Termagant, 6 Hormaguant

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 4 Termagant, 4 Hormaguant

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 4 Termagant, 4 Hormaguant

NORMAL ASSAULT SWARM [200]
2 Tyranid Warrior, 4 Termagant, 4 Hormaguant

NEST SWARM [410]
4 Termagant, Zoanthrope, 4 Dactylis

GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer

GENESTEALER SWARM [150]
6 Genestealer

HARASSMENT SWARM [225]
1 Harridan and 0-4 Gargoyles

HARASSMENT SWARM [225]
1 Harridan and 0-4 Gargoyles

LICTOR SWARM [200]
4 Lictor

SUBTERRANEAN SWARM [340]
1 Trygon and 2 Raveners, 3 Ravener

The current addition makes it 250 points more expensive. Losing an important activation and reducing overall model count by 3.

I would have thought a 25 point buff to large swarms would have been acceptable and a 250 point price on lictors. The rest is too much of an aggressive knee jerk change. It doesn't seem well considered or thought out.

1 activation and a couple of models, pretty minimal then. This has probably had more thought and discussion than any other review and slightly nerfs the slightly OTT assault swarm and harridans build.

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Hi thanks for sharing your list, it is very close to the version that we wished to down grade slightly.

To echo Steve a drop of a single activation from a list that has eaten its way (in UK tournaments) through most other lists is relatively minor. I will now duck as the cries on the changes to the EUK Iyandens from the last review start getting hurled about.

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Oh if you insist that just shy of a 10% increase is minimal then yes, minimal, very minimal... but still a 10% minimal increase.



Okay sorry. I didn't realise. But you've said so... thanks for clearing that up. Hahaha

Such an informative post. I have no further questions.
Cheers
Jim

I'm not sure what you want, we've explained what the changes were aimed and why.

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As far as I'm aware we've never turned anybody away who wanted to help with feedback or testing. Carlos for example provided very valuable input for the knights list.

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