Hey everyone!

I'm starting a new Death Korps army (pictures to follow). Just wanted a little guidance on the trenches....

-Has anyone tried them out? They seem like an auto-include, right?

-80cm of trenches and 4 bunkers..do they all give a 3+ cover save? 4+ for the trenches, 3+ for the bunkers?

-I thought I used to to see 80cm of trenches AND razor wire...just trenches now?

-Is there any hard and fast rule on how wide/narrow they should be? I got the daemonscape set and want to use the pieces back to back to make an enclosed trench (as apposed to just a wall on 1 side only)

the set: http://www.daemonscape.com/contents/med ... 282%29.jpg

Hi!

Very cool terrain!!

Regarding the trenches and the DKOK...they seem very good in stats, but the problem seems to be that the trenches are easy to overcome with clipping assaults (meaning that the attacker will engage your formation at a flank, so your formation could only fight with some units and the attacker most likely with all). Anyway some discussion is currently going about the DKOK and potential changes to the list.

If I am right, is 4+ the trenches, 3+ the bunkers.

Just trenches and bunkers I am affraid.

As far as I know there is not a rule for the wideness, but I would say that between 1-2 cm should be fine.

Best regards,

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Gwydion

hmmmmm ok

I was going to take those long sections and put the flat parts together for a wall on both sides...the makes it pretty thick...like 3-4 long bases of infantry fit that way and the pieces are 10 cm long. So maybe I'll make 40cm of thicker trenches with some attached bunkers..

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And what you were saying about the weakness of trenches, I totally get that. So far I've been building my lines on either side of the trench (with an upgraded infantry company garrisoning the trench) to have support on hand when/if needed..but I'm pretty early in my Death Korps games.

Hi!

Your idea should work fine attaching the bunkers.

If you play with the trenches, let us know! Sure it will give us ideas.

Thanks

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Gwydion

Attaching a pic for some scale. Do these sections seem too thick? This is with 10cm pieces back to back. If it seems too thick I think I'll just deploy it as 40cm of this.

It seems fine to me. There is enough space for a unit "defending" the trench and another passing behind it.

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Gwydion

Ahh that looks fab! =)

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Ben Sibbald

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Yep, looks the business to me too...

Hi!

That looks good!

Primarch

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I am taking another shot at the dkok list but I plan to play test every thing before release of 3.2.2 so have patience plz

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Hi!

Cool, post it when you have it done.

Primarch

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After 1st play test the First casualty is the grand light artilery company it is going to be down sized to normal company size

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Quick idea normally a company can only have 5 platoon cards attached to it but to accomidate the feeling of the dkok army’s huge formation structure I propose a 7 card support limit what do you say

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Hi!

Anything is possible, after all the tyranids have a different manner of doing it too.

Instead of 7 cards, why not larger sized support cards? Or even support cards with more than one detachment?

Primarch

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My first draft of 3.2.2 list read and check errors I will ad more units and I still need some good engereer rules

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