My list

BLACK LEGION RETINUE [450]
8 Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Lord, (Slaanesh), 2 Obliterators, Daemonic Pact

BLACK LEGION RETINUE [375]
8 Chaos Space Marines, (Slaanesh), Daemonic Pact, Obliterator, Sorcerer Lord

BLACK LEGION RETINUE [390]
8 Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Lord, Daemonic Pact, Chaos Champion, 8 Dreadclaw Drop Pod, (Slaanesh)

CHAOS TERMINATORS [300]
4 Chaos Terminators, (Slaanesh), Daemonic Pact, Sorcerer Lord

CHOSEN [145]
4 Chaos Space Marine Scouts, (Slaanesh), 2 Rhino

CHOSEN [145]
4 Chaos Space Marine Scouts, (Slaanesh), 4 Dreadclaw Drop Pod

HELLBLADE FLIGHT [200]
3 Fighters

DEVASTATION CLASS CRUISER [150]

FERAL TITAN [275]

FERAL TITAN [275]

RAPTOR CULT [200]
4 Raptor, (Slaanesh), Sorcerer Lord, Daemonic Pact

DAEMON POOL [95]
Greater Daemon, 3 Lesser Daemon

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Maybe Stephan's a lost cousin, with us sharing the same last name! Haha
(I am actually spelled the same, adapted an international friendly spelling when i moved to England)

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Oh, the Florian - that we do not speak about - that's you !

I must say I'm still under shock seeing the lists you play. I thought one or two might play lists like these - and with my luck, I would play against them - but that this is "standard" leaves me ....

Anyway that will give me a lot of time to watch others play.

My list:

Assault Detachment 175
4xAssault
Assault Detachment 175
4xAssault
Scout Detachment 150
4xScout
2xRhino
Land Speeder Detachment 200
5xLand Speeder
Land Speeder Detachment 200
5xLand Speeder
Predator Detachment 275
4xPredator Annihilator
Predator Detachment 275
4xPredator Annihilator
Predator Detachment 275
4xPredator Annihilator
Whirlwind Detachment 300
4xWhirlwind
Whirlwind Detachment 300
4xWhirlwind
Whirlwind Detachment 375
4xWhirlwind
Hunter
Thunderbolt Squadron 150
2xThunderbolt Fighter-Bomber
Thunderbolt Squadron 150
2xThunderbolt Fighter-Bomber

That's certainly a very different take on a space marine list! Good to see someone try something completely different I've certainly never seen that many whirlwinds in a list for starters! Not sure that a unit of them makes for the best of BTS' though... Generally you're best with something like a pimped tactical, terminator, or devastator squad for numbers and durability.

Ok my list:

Tacticals + Supreme Commander 400
Tacticals + Librarian + Hunter 425
Land Speeders 200
Scouts 150
Scouts 150
Terminators + Chaplain 400
Thunderhawk 200
Thunderhawk 200
Warhound 275
Thunderbolts 150
Thunderbolts 150
Thunderbolts 150
Thunderbolts 150

Wow, what a set of lists. I guess my guys will have to get their can openers out to get to the juicy bits inside.

My straight and simple Tyranids:

Assault Swarm
Assault Swarm
Assault Swarm
Assault Swarm
Assault Swarm
Dominatrix
Genestealers
Nest Swarm + Zoanthrope
Nest Swarm + Zoanthrope
Trygon & 2 Raveners
Harridan + Gargoyles
Harridan + Gargoyles
Harridan + Gargoyles

I had written a more detailed answer, but realized it would be seen as a rant - that's better left for "face to face". So I just say, that it is not a major problem with lists we play. It is a problem with the kind of lists you play and our game will be over by the end of turn 2 - neither expecting freak dice rolls nor incompetence.

That's ok, I just hope that there will be "all-round" lists at the bottom.

Looking forward to meeting you all.

Well I don't know about everyone else, but I won't want to face your army Brumbaer.

Although to be fair I'd say you are facing to start off one of the armies that I won't want to play in your shoes.

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Can't see anything wrong with any of the posted lists myself

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One thing i'd suggest taking a look at some point is this: http://epic-uk.co.uk/ukepicachampionship/index.php All the Epic UK tournaments have the lists uploaded after the event, so it's a pretty good resource to see what kind of builds are taken on average to Epic tournaments for various armies.

Happy to discuss lists and suchlike on Sunday It's very much a personal preference kind of thing afterall, and more than anything really does depend on your playstyle i think.

Why would you ?

It is what you used to.

There is no objective right or wrong, but a lot of subjective right and wrongs.

Richard is right, it's a question of style and best discussed face to face, with the full set of facial, tonal and body language feedback.

I'll be in Leicester on Saturday, so if anybody else is early we could discuss it over dinner, if you'd like.

Borrowing Richard's guard, my marines are taking longer to paint than planned…

Steel Legion

Regimental HQ, Hydra - 550
Mech. Inf. Company, Hydra, Griffons - 500
SHT Company (3 Shadowswords) - 500

Artillery Battery (3 Manticores) - 250
Flak Battery - 150
Sentinel Squadron - 100
Sentinel Squadron - 100

Thunderbolts - 150
Thunderbolts - 150
Warhound - 275
Warhound - 275

I think it's probably a clash of different metagames, I know here in the EpicUK scene we tend to play a game very heavily focused on engagements, from looking at your list Brumbaer, I get the impression (and of course I could be wrong!) that your group focuses more on shooting?

I think there may be some interesting matchups for your list and you may be more successful with it than you expect...

I'm very interested to discuss in person, unfortunately Saturday I have my son all day while my wife is at work, I may head to the venue to set up, although it depends on timing as they'll be clearing up after a big Magic:The Gathering release event and I have to maintain the routine for my son or he'll be a handful for my wife all day Sunday!

I hope we'll have time to discuss over lunch on the Sunday, I hope that everyone enjoys the event and I'm looking forwards to seeing you all and meeting both of our newcomers

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my list

DEATH GUARD RETINUE + sc
DEATH GUARD RETINUE + havoc
DEATH GUARD RETINUE + havoc
ARMOURED COMPANY
ARMOURED COMPANY
DEATH GUARD DEFILER PACK
DEATH GUARD DEFILER PACK
RUPUGNANT TITAN
HELLTALON FLIGHT
PLAGUE ZOMBIE INFESTATION

And to add to the confusion, my usual "experimental" style list . . .

Yme Loc
425 Eov Host:- 2x Scorpion
300 Falcon Host:- 4x Falcons + 2x firestorms
300 Falcon host:- 4x Falcons + 2x firestorms
500 Mounted Aspects:- (4x Striking scorpion, FD Autarch FD Exarch), 3x Wave Serpents
325 Mounted Guardians:- (Farseer + 5x Guardians), 2x Wave Serpents + 2x Falcons
175 3x Night Spinners
225 5x Hornets
225 5x Hornets
225 5x Hornets
300 3x Phoenix Bombers

(Hopefully I will have the correct models for the Hornets in time to paint them) . . . . .