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Who uses SM bikes, and why?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:05 am 
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Tacs make a good BTS but are (slightly) overpriced for use in other roles IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Who uses SM bikes, and why?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:45 pm 
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Evil and Chaos wrote:
Tacs make a good BTS but are (slightly) overpriced for use in other roles IMO.


Even at 275?

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275 is good IMO.
UK tournaments use 300.

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LordotMilk wrote:
The higher FF of bikes is not MW, and the result against pretty much everything except unarmored uncovered infantry makes LS statistically better than bikes.

It's not that extreme. At 5+/5+RA save, both generate the same number of FF kills per unit. That's pretty much in the middle of the pack as far as saves, giving each an advantage in certain situations.

In general, I prefer Speeders as well, but I think it's closer than you make it out to be. As far as other advantages the bikes have...

CC. Although I agree with you that it is rare to be able to exploit it, it's an option and does come up occasionally.

Better Base FF. Adding a Librarian to the formation is a nice boost to their FF/support ability.

Not LV. This is the most important. It makes Bikes tougher. AP is more common in the game, but lots of formations have token AT fire and, obviously, dedicated AT formations exist. There are a handful of common formations that stand out as having a big jump in effectiveness against LV. In particular, it is my experience that Speeders are very tempting targets for light aircraft (Fightabommas, TBolts, Nightwings) because Speeders are highly vulnerable to their mix of firepower. In any particular game it may make little difference, but over the course of many games Bikes show themselves to be more durable.


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 Post subject: Re: Who uses SM bikes, and why?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:58 am 
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Thanks for all the answers.

I still Wonder if perhaps the LS is a tad underpriced to be internally balanced within thr SM list.

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