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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:07 pm 
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For some reason I can't see the 1st version .. Tapatalk problem maybe.

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 Post subject: Re: Onslaught Miniatures
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:14 pm 
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First version:
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 Post subject: Re: Onslaught Miniatures
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:48 pm 
Goggles made of pony tails, please.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:11 pm 
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How about the second one with a face shield? I like the second one better, but it seems really stupid to not have some frontal armour.


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 Post subject: Re: Onslaught Miniatures
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:20 pm 
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- I can do something a bit more futuristic like Akira, but steps in that direction have so far been met with resistance. "Low Tech" / "Grim Dark" seem to be the order of the day. I'll mock something up and see...


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It's less the look of Akira vs the general shape of the bike as drawn that I am after. The elongated front and exposed oversized dual shocks I'm after (should be easier to cast as well). Also see how the rear build up on a boxy fusalage and has the rear wheel extended. It screams I GO FAST.

I'm not so sure that the sisters are actually grim-dark vs an interesting mixture of steam-punk/sci-fi influences that differentiates them.

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This is a definite improvement.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:22 pm 
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Far better second option IMHO. Need a helmet, something like this maybe?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:34 pm 
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I like this second version too. To be honest though, I will buy whichever one you go with. This is another stellar line from you. Thanks! 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:03 pm 
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Hmm now when I compare them I like the front of the first more and the backside of the 2nd. Combine these?

Not sure about the exhaust pipes.. I it's a hi-tech bike, isn't it working with a fuusion etc. Engines :p

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:10 pm 
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I liked the rear on the first one, but the front on the second (just don't like the giant exhaust pipes). Midian's helmet would look pretty slick.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:19 pm 
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Helmet with a pony tail out the back == WIN :D

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:38 pm 
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Helmet with a pony tail out the back == WIN :D


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:42 pm 
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Second one is a massive improvement. I agree about face/head protection (pony tail w/ goggles would be fine, but so would a sufficiently purty helmet) but as is is fine as well. The Rule of Cool is paramount here IMO-- just being an all-girl power armor army you've committed to RoC-compliance.

If I could make a suggestion... the pose on the bike is very important IMO. Leaning back implies cruising, like on a harley, as well as brute muscle power. As your pose leans further and further forward, you imply more sprinting and aggressiveness. Most of GW's bikes have their riders leaning way back, like they're going "putt-putt-putt" on a massive chopper. An artifact of heavy metal and 80's biker culture, maybe? The newest Dark Eldar jetbikes lean their riders far forward, more reminiscent of Akira and the anime/martial arts movie aesthetic.

For a female army, I think leaning far forward is much better from a Rule of Cool standpoint. Start with the girl and the pose, then mold the bike around it. Happily, this also means less dead space between her and the bike, which solves one of the problems you identified. I tried googling for a pic that illustrates what I mean but all I got were pinups. So I looked for GUYS racing motorcycles and found this:

http://fastbikes123.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... sults.html

Notice the poses they're using? For this model, I'd arch her back a little more, rather than hunched over like in the pics, so her butt is up a little higher. Keep her hugged tight against the bike (looks good and eliminates dead space). On a bike with a helmet, you lose the two most obvious visual cues of her gender, so showing her figure is important.

BTW, the tail pipes are fine by me. The thing is, Deacon's models so far aren't exactly steampunk, and they aren't exactly high-tech. But they have a very strong visual identity of their own, and that's consistent across the models we've seen so far. If you're committed to fusion power, then just say these are rocket-assists for bursts of speed and clearing obstacles. ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:55 pm 
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On a bike with a helmet, you lose the two most obvious visual cues of her gender, so showing her figure is important.


Pony tail!

Seriously, to me at least that's a very quick way of showing her gender.


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Hey now! Men can have long hair too! (bewbs not as common with that gender however ;) )

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Ponytails are great for implying speed.

I kind of liked the idea of looking into a screen while riding - and the flat surface in front of the rider looks a little bare right now. Were you going to put something there?


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