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[OLD] NetEA Tournament Pack 2013/08/07

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Not a whole bunch of changes (really just Tau and a few FAQ edits and typos from the old thread) but here you go. The FAQ edits/revisions will happen, I'm hoping in time for 2014 (and not 3/4 of the way through 2014).



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A Note on Printing

The page is the width of an A4 sheet and the height of a US letter (essentially the shortest measurements from both types of paper). I did this so you can print it as close to 100% on either of those two types of paper without having to worry about scaling and it looking like crap. Of course you can always print it at 100% on either, but seeing as that's an extra step I thought people would prefer the ability to be lazy and not worry about it.

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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Tournament Pack 2012 - 2013/08/07
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And the first type is... I didn't change the title to 2013...

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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Tournament Pack 2012 - 2013/08/07
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Though shouldn't the title page just be changed to Tounry Pack 2013 instead of the post-pended date?

EDIT: Dave beat me to it! :D Also while you're at it, don't forget to change the page headers!

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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Tournament Pack 2012 - 2013/08/07
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Slick Dave. Very impressive!

Thanks for all the hard work

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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Tournament Pack 2013/08/07
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I'm thinking that taking the date out of the title all together is going to cause the least amount of headaches. 20XX is already in all the headers anyway thanks to the date, no need to list it twice and forget about it again in 2014.

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After a lovely trip through the cockamamie inner workings of WordPress's file storage, the PDF has been fixed to include the right title and page headers.

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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Tournament Pack 2013/08/07
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Nice work :)

I already have last year's printed and bound. Is there a list anywhere of the changes that I could edit in with a pen? Is it just things mentioned in the previous thread and the newer Tau list?

How come you didn't include the AM and TL lists in the tournament pack, I would have though these would have been balanced enough to make it in there?


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 Post subject: Re: NetEA Tournament Pack 2013/08/07
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Yep, those are the changes. The only other thing I found was a 0-1x on the Salamander Command's heavy flamer that I removed.

The AM and TL were never approved by the prior ERC, so weren't grandfathered in. At this point they'd need some batreps to get in.

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The AM and TL were never approved by the prior ERC, so weren't grandfathered in. At this point they'd need some batreps to get in.

The Titan Legions list was highly respected and used in tournaments around the world without complaint.

AFAIK the Krieg and Minervan lists were never approved by the old ERC either, presumably they should be downgraded and removed too.

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Oy! Stop that E&C, we could do with more lists approved not less.

I've played Krieg a lot and they seem balanced IMO. I've not tried Minervan nor Titan Legions yet, though I hope to playtest TL later in the year once I get my models put together.


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What's in the TP was agreed upon by Neal, Chroma, Hena/Meph. They sent me a list and I cross-checked with each of them. I specifically asked about the AMTL list and was told it wasn't approved.

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Oy! Stop that E&C, we could do with more lists approved not less.

I wasn't being serious, only pointing out an inconsistency.

My point was that the Titan Legions list never should have been downgraded in the first place.
It was balanced* and finished, just the same as the Krieg list and the Minervan list (both of which I took to Approved status).

Thus, my ironic proposal to continue the "backwards progress" that has characterised the NetEA project for the last 2-3 years.

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What's in the TP was agreed upon by Neal, Chroma, Hena/Meph. They sent me a list and I cross-checked with each of them. I specifically asked about the AMTL list and was told it wasn't approved.

And AFAIK, the Krieg & Minervan lists were never voted upon.
Certainly nothing happened with the ERC before they were published in finished forms in printed supplements... they just became Approved because I and the Community said they were ready.

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*Well enough, at any rate, I know some ways to make it more balanced but they were rejected by the community as too restrictive on configurations.

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And I can guess at why the ERC never actually voted on the AMTL list despite it sitting finished for a year or so - because they never did all that much voting on anything. Chroma, Neal & Hena all were absent from the boards for months, even years at a time.

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I hope the TL will be added in, IMO it should be in there already. Did any of them specify any particular reason for it not being approved?

Neal and Chroma have done a lot over the years, but with both being long inactive (and at least in Neal's case longer interested in playing epic) they're unlikely to be familiar with the current state of the lists and maybe not best placed to be making the call for what goes in or not.


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