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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:49 am 
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I have to say that's the one thing that's starting to concern me a bit. I can see myself wanting to buy plenty of this stuff and paying an extra 20% on the price and the postage is going to suck...

The designs are really starting to come together though - I'm liking it a lot.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 12:25 pm 
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I am preemptively stating that I personally hold you responsible for the circumstances that will make my wife divorce me :D


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 12:34 pm 
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jimmyzimms wrote:
I am preemptively stating that I personally hold you responsible for the circumstances that will make my wife divorce me :D


Jimmy - I'm single, let's get hitched!


...and desperate. ;D

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:37 pm 
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The more I think about it I'm not sure I'm particularly sold on the engines... Might be worth trying another couple of variations?


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Alf O'Mega wrote:
I have to say that's the one thing that's starting to concern me a bit. I can see myself wanting to buy plenty of this stuff and paying an extra 20% on the price and the postage is going to suck...

The designs are really starting to come together though - I'm liking it a lot.


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hey deacon,

great stuff that you´re doing!
is there any chance of an european distribution of your products?
the postage and the customs duties (19% in germany) are really steep...


I do have plans to get a European Distributor - but a few things need to happen first:

- The next big investment I have planned is for proper packaging - clam shells with card inserts. I don't want to go with a distributor until I have a product that can look at home on a store shelf.

- I also need to sell more units overall to bring the cost of each unit down. Right now, I make about 1-2 dollars on each unit sold, which goes right back into the business to produce more units. If I shave 35-50% off of the sale price to a distributor, I'm looking at a loss on each unit. And while that robs me of any incentive to do so, it also kills Onslaught - no money from sales = no new units.

- I need to develop a ruleset. Generic minis are fine an useful, but to really get the word out - they need a game to go with them. This will bring in more customers, and will help with the above mentioned priority - selling more units. Once cost per unit goes down, I can sell to a distributor without taking losses.

In the meantime, I recommend you overthrow you respective governments in the name of Onslaught and reform the tax codes :)

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:18 pm 
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I really like the look of your minis, but I'm in a similar camp in terms of postage/import reservations and would love to see a european distributor, however, I'm not so keen on wasteful packaging and/or more rules.

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- The next big investment I have planned is for proper packaging - clam shells with card inserts. I don't want to go with a distributor until I have a product that can look at home on a store shelf.

:( aside from looking good at shows, why? EW went clamshells a while ago and I find them a pain – have to cut my way in, they don't re-seal after opening, they take up a lot of extra space in the hobby cupboard, and are excessive packaging. For smaller unit pieces like infantry little bags far more use friendly, as I can just take out and use 20 then re-seal the bag. Clamshells looks 'professional' but I find them impractical as an end user.

(note, i don't know what sort of packing you use at present, i'm guessing little bags or packets)

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I agree with you man - but the hard truth is that there isn't a store out there that will buy your product and place it on their shelves if it comes in little baggies. Same goes with online retailers.

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boo :( fair enough then. I wasn't thinking bricks and mortar stores so much I must admit (as i've never purchased 6mm in a 'real' shop), it's a shame that even online distributors won't take it :(

really want some of those rigs :D keep up the shiny things

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:30 pm 
deacon wrote:
I agree with you man - but the hard truth is that there isn't a store out there that will buy your product and place it on their shelves if it comes in little baggies. Same goes with online retailers.


Exception, NinjaMagic's ships sell from Rattlehead in baggies. But that's not such a big exception.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:39 pm 
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@Deacon - you do what you need to do, you've got a great bunch of designs and they deserve to get pushed as far they can...
Until you get sorted with a distributor I guess I'm just going to have to make several smaller orders to dodge the tax and flat rate £8 handling charge from Parcel force...

One thing though - what are these cast in? Metal right?


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Press Release: Onslaught Miniatures partners with Steel Crown Productions to bring their original IP to the world of Exodus Wars.


hey a guy can dream, right? ;)
and while I am at it,Games Workshop spins off independent subsidiary, Specialist Games to WotC; Tax rates reduced 50%; Two state solution finalized in Israeli Palestinian vote; Bush Jr jailed... :)

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Alf O'Mega wrote:
@Deacon - you do what you need to do, you've got a great bunch of designs and they deserve to get pushed as far they can...
Until you get sorted with a distributor I guess I'm just going to have to make several smaller orders to dodge the tax and flat rate £8 handling charge from Parcel force...

One thing though - what are these cast in? Metal right?


Yup - metal.

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Press Release: Onslaught Miniatures partners with Steel Crown Productions to bring their original IP to the world of Exodus Wars.


I've got a good working relationship with Steel Crown - If you dig my style, they have a bunch of new sculpts coming out that I've worked my tail off on :)

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netepic wrote:
jimmyzimms wrote:
I am preemptively stating that I personally hold you responsible for the circumstances that will make my wife divorce me :D


Jimmy - I'm single, let's get hitched!



Sure Tom, why not? And to quote Xander from Buffy, "Ok come on-lets gay!"
You do realize I'm just using you for your models and the occasional rule clarification, right ;)


Deacon, could you go the FW route and use labled bags?

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deacon wrote:
Alf O'Mega wrote:

- I need to develop a ruleset. Generic minis are fine an useful, but to really get the word out - they need a game to go with them. This will bring in more customers, and will help with the above mentioned priority - selling more units. Once cost per unit goes down, I can sell to a distributor without taking losses.

In the meantime, I recommend you overthrow you respective governments in the name of Onslaught and reform the tax codes :)


I don't think you need to be in a rush there.
The already mentioned company Mantic Games is a great example, and has been in an similar position Onslaught is at the moment if i may say so, producing figures which are unofficially intended to be used with GW game systems. Either filling gaps in GW's range or providing cost-competitive alternatives.
Better to establish yourself as a 'quality miniature producer' and then try yourself on a fully supported game system.

Imho, the best exposure is still being seen on the tables of the 'GW community' due to the simple fact that it is the largest one out there.
Of course, positive features on larger online platforms/portals appears crucial as well. Especially now that GW is shutting down SG for good. In fact, that in itself can be the start of an editorial piece already ;)
'As GW is shutting down his SG production, small independent producer like Onslaught Miniature are ready to fill the void.'

Please feel free to call BS ^_^

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deacon wrote:

jimmyzimms wrote:
Press Release: Onslaught Miniatures partners with Steel Crown Productions to bring their original IP to the world of Exodus Wars.


I've got a good working relationship with Steel Crown - If you dig my style, they have a bunch of new sculpts coming out that I've worked my tail off on :)


Its true, SCP hearts Onslaught Miniatures.

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