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Is Epic lagging behind?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:55 pm 
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They can get made, maybe not progressed up the approval ladder, but nothing to stop people posting lists. As you have in the past.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:48 pm 
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Evil and Chaos wrote:
Problem is the idle AC's, leading to no central consensus on stats in some armies, so even variant lists can't get made.


Do you have a siggestion on how to resolve the "idle AC" issue?

Personally I have found the ACs pretty active when adressed.

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LordotMilk wrote:
Evil and Chaos wrote:
Problem is the idle AC's, leading to no central consensus on stats in some armies, so even variant lists can't get made.


Do you have a siggestion on how to resolve the "idle AC" issue?

Democratic Revolution.

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Evil and Chaos wrote:
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Evil and Chaos wrote:
Problem is the idle AC's, leading to no central consensus on stats in some armies, so even variant lists can't get made.


Do you have a siggestion on how to resolve the "idle AC" issue?

Democratic Revolution.


Start the polls!

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rise of the polletariat? - I don't think even that is neccesary, when people are unhappy with lists they experiment and try to go around the problem. that can be a good thing, or can be a bad thing, depending on how fratious the group becomes.

you get what you pay for, and NetEA is a volunteer effort.

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Ha! Good luck on your revolution. We struggle to get candidates for AC positions and ERC positions.
Day 1 - "We need a revolution! Somebody has to get the work done around here!"
Day 2 - "What do you mean I have to actually help? I don't have time to lead!"
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I think it's fairly obvious from the replies in this forum that most people are reasonably happy with the status quo at the moment, just that some people have louder voices than others...... ;)

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Just poking some fun at the absurdity.
As one of the people who might be considered 'idle' it is worth mentioning that IMO the amount of free time most people have has dwindled considerably. Economics, family, and other forces conspire to keep us from our beloved hobby. What ails the community are not idle hands but a lack of spare time on behalf of a great many people.

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plus, much of said spare time appears to be wasted arguing about stuff to playtest rather than actually playtesting stuff...... ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:57 pm 
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kyussinchains wrote:
plus, much of said spare time appears to be wasted arguing about stuff to playtest rather than actually playtesting stuff...... ;)


I think there are probably jsut a handful arguments that have wasted more time than any others, without any resolution. I submit:

Warhounds in Marine Army
Dreadnaught armour saves
Pulsars of all kinds

Feel free to list your own :P

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Actually Moscovian I'd consier you one of the active AC's / ERC members. Most don't put in an eigth the effort you do.

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What ails the community are not idle hands but a lack of spare time on behalf of a great many people.

I'd argue that a good number of people hanging onto AC and even ERC positions when they have no intention of ever doing any more NetEA development work is a bigger problem than a lack of spare time.

More than half, perhaps even more than two thirds, of the AC's don't actually do any NetEA list development work these days.

Things aren't quite as bad with the ERC but neither are they all fully active (and a couple of the ERC members are definitely also idle Army Champions).

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Give it some time. I think things will get better as the fall sets in. And thanks for the compliment but I've been slacking on the Squats big time. I'm going to devote my lunch hour to v1.3.

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Some of the idles have had years of time. They're idle now and they're unlikely to do doing anything new come the autumn.

Fixed terms (perhaps of two years) and regular elections for all blue names, IMO, is what'd force the idlers to actually attempt to do something.

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Evil and Chaos wrote:
Fixed terms (perhaps of two years) and regular elections for all blue names, IMO, is what'd force the idlers to actually attempt to do something.


Fixed terms and elections are a good idea. Volunteer organizations often have that, even if it's usually pro forma - the issue about finding somebody to do the work isn't unique to the NetEA project.

As long as we don't do anything stupid like term limits it should work great.

I do see where Mosc is coming from, especially now that I've got a blue name because nobody else could be bothered :)


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Terms sound well enough, but you'll end up with the same crew though, given the level of enthusiasm people have now. I doubt there are players out there saying, "Hmmm, I ignored the last five AC openings because I've been waiting for the [insert idle AC position here] to open up." Not happening.

Anyone want a Squat AC position? Anyone? Anyone? :P

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