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Storm Talon. A proper Space Marine Fighter Aircraft?
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 1:10 am 
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Look here:
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 3:48 am 
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Awesome!!

This niche has been missing from the Marine list for far too long.

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:11 pm 
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They dubbed it the Roflcopter but i like the design :)

If the stats are true i propose:

Space Marine Storm Talon Gunship
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Aircraft Fighter 5+ n/a n/a
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Twin Heavy Bolter 30cm AP4+/AA5+ Fixed Forward Arc
Twin Assault Cannon 30cm AP4+/AT4+/AA4+ Fixed Forward Arc



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I have to admit that it looks a lot more like a skimmer than a fighter to me...
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I agree with Ulrik and we have land speeders already. This just looks out of place and over-gunned.

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So far all aircrafts look overgunned :D
It CAN act as Skimmer but then it would be immobile. So it IS a proper aircraft.

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It's a fighter.

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It's VERY dopey looking. And looks more akin to a heli gunship than a fighter to me. The fact that it's "supersonic" and has that huge bubble cockpit only compounds the stupidity of it. If they came out with something closer to the Storm Eagle I'd buy Interceptor, but not with that.

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looks more akin to a heli gunship than a fighter to me.

The thunderhawk gunship looks more akin to a brick than a plane. All of 40k is dopey looking, that's generally the point.

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I like the design :)
I have added Epic stats for the Storm Talon above.

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I'm using these for my SM Marauders and T-Bolts ... ;D Image Image A little blurry ... they were moving Fast !!!!!!!!!!!!

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I've gotta agree with Dave on this one.

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Bear in mind, it's someone's sketch based on having seen the model, not a sketch drawn with the model right in front of them.

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BlackLegion wrote:
They dubbed it the Roflcopter but i like the design :)

If the stats are true i propose:

Space Marine Storm Talon Gunship
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Aircraft Fighter 5+ n/a n/a
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Twin Heavy Bolter 30cm AP4+/AA5+ Fixed Forward Arc
Twin Assault Cannon 30cm AP4+/AT4+/AA4+ Fixed Forward Arc



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Notes: Reinforced Armour.. to represent Ceramite Plating (this is standard on all Space Marine Aircrafts)
Swap TwinHeavy Bolters for Skyhammer Missile Launchers 30cm AT4+ Fixed Forward Arc


Those stats also make it by far the best interceptor in the game and therefore most likely unbalanced to hell.


It also really does look like a helo/VTOL (C&C Orca anyone?). Hell, it looks like a GW kitbash to reuse as much of their existing parts as possible and keep it small enough to make a lot of sales.

I am glad to hear Space marines finally get an actual fighter though; considering their major shtick is independent operations involving planetary drops and air assaults, the fact they had nothing to provide escort for their air transports was asinine
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Those stats also make it by far the best interceptor in the game and therefore most likely unbalanced to hell.

*shrug*
You could either make it a formation of 1 plane for ~125pts, or drop the range on the guns.

~150pts if with the missile launcher attack.

Hardly looks to be a world beater.

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