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Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:05 pm 
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From here:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-4 ... IONER.html

Wh40k rules:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/downloads/p ... tioner.pdf


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Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 5+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Heavy Conversion Beamer 75cm MW4+ Macro-weapon
2 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+ -

Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Armoured Vehicle 30cm 4+ 6+ 3+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Plasma Destroyer 30cm MW4+ Macro-weapon
2 x Heavy Bolter 30cm AP5+ -

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 Post subject: Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:23 pm 
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I'd recommend something like:

Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 4+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Plasma Destroyer 30cm MW4+ Macro-weapon
2 x Heavy Bolter 30cm AP5+ -

AND

Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 5+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Heavy Conversion Beamer 0-40cm AP3+/AT5+ OR 40-75cm MW3+ Macro-weapon
2 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+ -

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 Post subject: Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:04 pm 
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So your Heavy Conversion Beamer can't shoot at targets between 30 and 40cm? ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:33 pm 
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I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU MEAN. I WOULD NEVER MAKE SUCH A FOOLISH MISTAKE. WOULD I TALK THIS LOUDLY IF I MADE MISTAKES?

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 Post subject: Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:40 am 
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I prefer BL's stats but only because they are simpler in gameplay.
I note that these are available to a few chapter including Black Templars. Could this tank be used in a list like the Templars to help off set the none availability of Warhounds?
Say a limited number of Predators from a detachment can be upgraded for x points?

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 Post subject: Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:56 am 
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I did make a mistake too. The Plasma Destroyer doesn't slow down the tank. So Speed 30cm remains. Also adjusted the FF value to better match the Predator Destructor. If two Heavy Bolters and an Autocannon can gove FF 3+ so can twi Heavy Bolters and a Plasma Destroyer :)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:56 am 
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I know I know I am resurrecting threads here tonight. Just noticed this in the 40k rules:
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Firing Calibration: This weapon may not be fired if the model
carrying it has moved in the same turn, regardless of the Relentless
special rule or if the carrying model is a vehicle, etc.


Perhaps this is appropriate
Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 5+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Heavy Conversion Beamer 75cm MW4+ Macro-weapon
2 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+ -

Notes: Slow Firing

thoughts? Just like to get this put to bed and a suggested price tag added.

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 Post subject: Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:10 am 
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If you put Slow-firing in the noters then the Lascannons are affeckted too.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:36 pm 
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I guess we can put slow firing on the weapon??? Precident?

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jimmyzimms wrote:
I guess we can put slow firing on the weapon??? Precident?


Plasma Cannon, etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:28 pm 
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damn you're right. my eyes read across that and catch "slow firing" and my brain shuffles it into the notes section. Never play with any anyways so never came up. Sweet so then->
Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 5+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Heavy Conversion Beamer 75cm MW4+ Macro-weapon, Slow Firing
2 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+ -

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So let's talk price then.
Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator (either load out)
-Add 1 Executioner +100 points (should this be 75 like the hunter instead?)

Should this instead be a formation (4 for 325?)?

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Is this thing part of the Heresy items list from FW or is it for straight-up 40K games?


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40k. It predates the Heresy Announcement by months. I am sure they will make an appearance there as well.

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The Conversion beamer is quit simple to build with a Predator and an old eldar Vibrocannon !


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