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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:14 pm 
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I didn't say loss of mobility, I said loss of FAST transport.

Could you provide the supplement so that I can read it then?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:23 pm 
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The story element is on page two.

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Thanks, I've taken some time to read through it but before I comment on my impressions, do you have any information on the rest of the supplement like scenarios or other aspects that are based around the story or is the rough TOC on the second page still accurate?

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Just the comment that every major and most minor actions fought by the skitarii are defensive, and that it's the IG who do the real offensive stuff and win back the planet.

Doubtless you'll now tell me you think your list's fine.

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Doubtless you'll now tell me you think your list's fine.


Is that kind of sniping really necessary?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:53 pm 
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No, it's not. You're right.

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Just the comment that every major and most minor actions fought by the skitarii are defensive, and that it's the IG who do the real offensive stuff and win back the planet.

so no additional scenarios or other information beyond the story has been created then?

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E&C, if you have plans to do more than what you've included, now seems like a good time to bring those ideas up with Vaaish (even in an outline format).

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I haven't had time to write that essay on themes and design ideas yet.

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Well, in that event... Vaaish, there seems to be more coming down the pipeline than what you currently have, so take that into consideration when you are evaluating E&C's work.

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Ok, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

One more question, to give me a better reference point as I'm going through this, what SPECIFICALLY about the current list makes it unfit for the supplement. I'm not looking for you to come back about my definition of a PDF, I want to know why you dislike the list as part of your supplement based on the unit selection we've got up in Revision D and specifically how that does not fit the story.

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That will require the essay. Or alternatively you can go by all the posts I've made here over the past few weeks.

Clearly you think it's fine, with minor adjustments. You've made that clear several times. I disagree.

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What I've gathered from your posts is this:
a. focus not on ordinatus
b. focus not defensive
c. too many units
d. strip CLP
e. strip Russes
f. strip macharius
g. add installations (this is more inferred from PM's)
h. definition of PDF not a PDF
i. limit titans types
j. limit minorus types
k. limit majoris types


This doesn't tell me how what we've got isn't defensive in your mind or what specifically you want in there since my comparison with your starting point list is quite similar outside of set ordinatus and titan configs and the defense laser.

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all but j and k yes. j & k partial, ~10 or more of each type desirable for theme.

Also Fix gross internal imbalances with Ordinati by adopting assigned pricing and stats, use slower Ordinati so they have a character as a slow gun platform and not a shielded SHT (increased speed clearly won't even fix the issue with the arty Ordinatii being the best anyway, but it will diminish the theme). Also basic changes in list construction style (make formation based rather than upgrade based). Also defensive walls or similar. More besides, but needs an essay written which I do not have time for right now. Robots are cool.

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It's your supplement, and I'll write more later on my thoughts in conjunction with the list in my post and your story but just so we are clear, not everything on that list or what you wrote is going into the Skitarii PDF. I will do my best to accommodate you as I can, but you need to understand that some of this is just isn't going to happen. I will explain my reasons fully and you are welcome to disagree but \you should remember we are attempting to do what is best for the skitarii and amtl lists not just what's best for your supplement. This isn't all or nothing and if you choose to see it as that any delay of the supplement that results rests on your shoulders.

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