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Should the Leman Russ be removed from the Skitarii list?
Poll ended at Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:40 am
Yes 33%  33%  [ 9 ]
No 52%  52%  [ 14 ]
I like cheese. 15%  15%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 27

Skitarii Poll 01: Should the Leman Russ be removed entirely

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:22 am 
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I voted keep but purely from selfish reasons.

I've been working on a collection of imperial models to to fulfil the role of several army lists and play styles: I fear removing leman russ' would mean buying more models with money i don't have.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:51 am 
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I voted cheese. I don't think the Leman Russ has any particular role to fill in the Ad Mech list (ecept perhaps showcasing Ad Mech plasma technology), but I'm opposed to cutting units from a list, since it may break peoples model collections. I like backwards compatibility...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:02 pm 
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People's model collections should not be a big concern when you're talking about an experimental list.

However I have said that there should be a mechanicus Armoured regiment list in order to cater for the obvious demand for a Mechnicus tank list.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:21 pm 
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But what else would go in the mechanicus armoured regiment?

I think Ad-mech tanks and i go straight to ordinatii.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:19 pm 
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what else would go in the mechanicus armoured regiment?

Example list:

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Tank Decca-Century (10 Russ Executioners or 10 Russ Vanquishers) - 700 Points
Heavy Tank Decca-Century (2 Macharius Heavy Tanks & 1 Macharius Vanquisher, Vulcan, or Omega) - 350 Points
Super Heavy Tank Decca-Century (3 Baneblades, Stormblades, Shadowswords, or Decimators) - 500 Points
Artillery Hemidecca-Century (5 Manticores) - 350 Points

SUPPORT
Mechanised Skitarii Demi-Century (9 Skitarii, 1 Tech Priest, 10 Chimerraxes or 2 CRASSUS ASSAULT TRANSPORTS) - 500 Points
Scout Detachment (4 Sentinels) - 100 Points
Heavy Artillery (3 Praetor Launchers) - 350 Points
Shark Assault Boat (1 Bulk Lander) - 200 Points


etc.

Macharius Omega = Macharius with Plasma Blastgun
Crassus Assault Transport = Macharius-hulled armoured transport arguably 2DC 25cm speed
Praetor = Macharius hulled heavy armoured artillery BP2 ish I guess not checked its stats
Decimators = Loyalist Decimators due to having high tech
Shark = As this is presumably part of an explorator force, they can have a Shark Assault Boat which would be an unarmed, lightly armoured transport aircraft that can planetfall, which can carry 1 company of anything, or about 2 support formations.

I think there's the kernel of an idea in there.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:35 pm 
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whoah. decimators?

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what else would go in the mechanicus armoured regiment?

Example list:

CORE
Tank Dakka-Century (10 Gunwagons or 10 Gutburstas) - 700 Points
'eavy Tank Dakka-Century (2 Grot mega tanks & 1 gun fortress) - 350 Points
Supa 'eavy Tank Dakka-Century (3 Gunfortress with 3 'Konel's speshul' upgrades) - 500 Points
Orktillery 'eavydakka-Century (5 looted Manticores) - 350 Points

SUPPORT
Mek's Warband (9 boyz, 1 Nob, 10 gunwagons or 2 krawla wagons) - 500 Points
Kommandos Mob (5 Kommandos) - 100 Points
'eavy Orktillery (3 Boomwagons) - 350 Points
'eavy Kopter landa (1 kopta landa) - 200 Points


etc.

I think there's the kernel of an idea in there.


Fixed dat fer yeh.

inspiring though.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:40 pm 
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Evil and Chaos wrote:
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what else would go in the mechanicus armoured regiment?

Example list:

CORE
Tank Decca-Century (10 Russ Executioners or 10 Russ Vanquishers) - 700 Points
Heavy Tank Decca-Century (2 Macharius Heavy Tanks & 1 Macharius Vanquisher, Vulcan, or Omega) - 350 Points
Super Heavy Tank Decca-Century (3 Baneblades, Stormblades, Shadowswords, or Decimators) - 500 Points
Artillery Hemidecca-Century (5 Manticores) - 350 Points

SUPPORT
Mechanised Skitarii Demi-Century (9 Skitarii, 1 Tech Priest, 10 Chimerraxes or 2 CRASSUS ASSAULT TRANSPORTS) - 500 Points
Scout Detachment (4 Sentinels) - 100 Points
Heavy Artillery (3 Praetor Launchers) - 350 Points
Shark Assault Boat (1 Bulk Lander) - 200 Points


etc.

Macharius Omega = Macharius with Plasma Blastgun
Crassus Assault Transport = Macharius-hulled armoured transport arguably 2DC 25cm speed
Praetor = Macharius hulled heavy armoured artillery BP2 ish I guess not checked its stats
Decimators = Loyalist Decimators due to having high tech
Shark = As this is presumably part of an explorator force, they can have a Shark Assault Boat which would be an unarmed, lightly armoured transport aircraft that can planetfall, which can carry 1 company of anything, or about 2 support formations.

I think there's the kernel of an idea in there.

I have said before I would quite like to see a list in which ALL of the Imperial SHT's were featured. I liked the idea of Machs being light scouting elements!!

A more serious point is that such a list as you have suggested would allow everyone who has painted up these tanks in Ad-Mech colours (with considerable changes in playtest lists over the years) would still be able to get use out of their model collections.

But specifically for the Skitarii list I have a somewhat contradictory view for inclusion of Leman Russ variants / Machs. I am happy for Skitarii list to exclude all Leman Russ variants- these are inconic IG units and have featured in loads of IG army lists, and thus their exclusion would help differentiate Skitarii from being Red Guard. It will also help in trimming the options available to Skitarii.

By contrast I would prefer Skitarii keep the Machs. These only appear in one variant IG list and have been linked with AM. The Machs inclusion in Skitarii list actually helps differentiate them from IG SL/Armoured Company.

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I voted "Yes, remove them" ONLY if there is a Skittles TanK list development and the feeling of the current Skittles list is turn more to PDF. Much more akin to a Forgeworld rushing to defend it self at the last minute then what a FULL AM Army could pull out.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:29 pm 
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The poll is over, thanks for voting guys!

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