This guy could use a few chargebacks of his own to deal with. Taste of his own medicine etc.

epic, you need to see photos. I'm not sure what you need to claim on the insurance with Royal Mail, you might need the item itself. Best to find out first.

When figuring out a fair partial refund, ignore the cost of postage, it does not come into it. If he bought the item for 50p, and the damage is superficial, offer him 5p. Best way is to quote percentages, not absolute amounts. If the item is 90% usable, give him a 10% refund (of the final value).

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Cheers for the info, will try and get the items back but if he refuses i will take your percentage idea, it seems a pretty good way to settle this matter,

Thanks for your input, regards epic

Well, thanks to this thread and posts like yours, I have learned a few lessons. What amazes me is the null height these weird types stoop to for that insignificant money.

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It's all part or the ebay experience. It's easy to get that little extra, because ebay seems to protect the buyer by stacking the deck against the seller.

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That's a common misconception. The problem is actually that the odds are stacked against both the seller and the buyer. On the sellers side, they cannot leave negative feedback for a buyer at all, and PayPal does seem to favour the buyer in 50/50 cases. On the buyers side, eBay doesn't give a damn about shill bidding (and encourages it with private listings), allows sellers to cancel items with zero rationale (while buyers need to give a really good reason and it hits them hard, one of the sellers options is 'item is no longer available'!), and if a seller ships a box of rocks signed for, the buyer is often SoL.

The only side not losing out, is eBay/PayPal.

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It's almost silly how easy eBay makes it to shill bid. You can have multiple accounts and just rotate shill bids to your selling account. With private bidding, you don't even need to be that fancy.

I'd love to see private bidding disabled & have a complete item history attached to each seller. That would knock the silly pricing out of the booming recast market & drop those recasts down to more realistic levels.

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Very true. But, since eBay charge a percentage of the final cost, disencouraging shill bidding would reduce their fees.

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strange, how many minis he'd found:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI. ... CO:GB:1123

I keep thinking that this practice cannot be worth the bother. How much time is spent recasting, filing false complaints and shilling for what net income? Not likely a sustainable way of life.

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*If* the ones he ships out are the one in that picture, then they are either not re-casts, or are such good re-casts that you're never going to know the difference.

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I was actually referring to the overall discussion here, but if these are good copies or no copies, then that is good. The other things in general are bad, though.

/M

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Agreed, sorry. The behavior may have aspects that could be indicative of re-casting, but the models pictured there, do not, in my opinion, look re-cast.

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They don't look like recasts, but I'm usually suspicious when minis are primed white.

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Is $35+/mini worth the trouble? Skullz Ad Mech, Female Commissars, Baby Zoats,Gamesday Black Orcs can all bring a decent return. Recast Kegox, the Bibby Spined Dragon, Chaos Dwarf Juggernaughts, or any "unreleased" model and the ROI just got better.


Agreed. If you don't have an original to compare the recast to, you likely won't know the difference.

Honestly, quality recasts are a boon because they increase the availability of hard to find or OOP models. It's really just the inflated pricing, as if the model was an original, that's bothersome.
If you're going to put up a lot of Juan Diaz Slaanesh critters or a full set of MM90 Chaos Dwarfs up on one of your eBay IDs weekly, don't pretend they are originals.

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well folks,
Have decided to offer a full refund plus pay the extra postage costage costs myself, loose out on few quid due to postage and ebay costs but i would sooner get the titans back myself and take the hit rather than deal with a dealer again.

Shame really but but in every few people you always come across a bad apple, I feel like the muppet but at least it will
make the said person take time out of his day to post it, and hopefully consider his ethics! i can now hear him snapping my titans up as i type

Hopefully all will be resolved,lessons have been learnt and i will end up with the items back to repair/convert again

Regards epic